Bienvenido Ubenga - New Sporting Director

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by reids, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I would always go watch the full clip and the kind of question asked before believing in a journo baiting for clicks.
     
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  2. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    People disagree with those they work with all the time. I often disagree with my boss. We have a rational conversation about how we think we should proceed, he makes a decision and we then execute.

    Disagreement doesn't need to be acrimonious.
     
  3. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    In this case the boss has come in and said the team can't achieve their primary objective with 4 months of the season left. I can see why that would annoy Bilic.
     
  4. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Don't see why. Most of the posters on this board seem to agree with Manga.
     
  5. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Think the promotion thing is a bit of a red herring. Far more concerning that the club just went and got a right back Bilic said he didn't need and didn't know anything about.
     
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  6. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

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  7. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Most of the posters on this forum (I’d venture all of them really) don’t work for the club, moreover in a position of such close proximity to the manager/sporting director. It’s a false equivalence.

    I’m a bit baffled as to why you think 2 people who work in such close quarters that have 2 different ideas of what can be achieved in nearly half a season, is no problem at all!
     
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  8. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    It's not intended as an equivalence. It's an illustration of the fact that the opinion automatics are probably out of reach is a long way from an unreasonable one to voice.

    I work with people with different opinions all the time and it is, in fact, no problem at all. Different perspectives are a strength, not a weakness, and disagreements don't stop you from being able to work together. Yes-man environments aren't remotely productive.
     
  9. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I mean, if you value JP at £30m, which is either generous or measly depending on your viewpoint, we reportedly paid £9m for Louza, and we are (again reportedly) tied in to paying £15m for Davis if we achieve promotion - it really doesn't take much at all for those sums to add up, frankly.

    Whether we perform as a £60m+ unit is another question, though I'd be surprised if we couldn't beat anyone in the division with all of those players on the pitch fully fit and playing to capacity.

    Obviously, the key point doing an awful lot of heavy lifting there is that 'if', and it's not something we've come close to seeing yet this season. Nor do we appear to be, as it stands. And therein lies the rub - whilst that's the case, the backups taking their place aren't remotely fit for purpose.
     
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  10. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I agree.

    But very few air their differences publicly so early.

    I don’t care what any industry any of us are in - it’s not healthy to have a new partnership at the top of any business airing differing opinions to anyone who cares to listen/read.

    So I don’t agree really. I’ve agreed with your broad point - but I think the nuances of this being a football club mean it’s not similar. Unless one of your team in your sector has had a meeting with you and then gone shooting his mouth to the contrary to a media willing to listen?
     
  11. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Indeed. Does a person not think how absurd they look when putting forward Cleverly and Kalu when talking of “£60m of players to come back”.
     
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  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    That is fair enough .

    Was more the listed squad players after those 3 that caught my eye .

    Some of whom aren’t good enough for the top of this league as you say .
     
  13. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Don't forget that TDB will be a £50m+ player soon enough, he just needs a run of games :)
     
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  14. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    They're barely even disagreeing. Automatics v Playoffs isn't some huge gulf in expectations. Manga is being pragmatic, Bilic optimistic, both opinions are reasonable and justifiable.

    They're not going to experience a frayed working relationship based on their very slightly different assessments of what's possible in the next 20 games.
     
  15. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Gaspars loan ends at end of season, we will have two, young right backs ready for next season.
     
  16. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    ?

    Is this a variation on the Hoggy loan joke?
     
  17. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    Surely this takes the pressure off Bilic in that he is not EXPECTED to get automatic promotion?
     
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  18. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Bloody hell. Wouldn't want to be given a performance review in your company!
     
  19. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Suspect that if you told your boss you needed a new team member to fulfil a particular role and then someone turned up at work who you'd never met to fill a different role that you thought was already covered, you might be a bit annoyed though!
     
  20. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Yes man environments aren’t remotely productive m8.
     
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  21. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    That is, of course, an entirely different conversation.
     
  22. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    You should see the Sudden Death rounds at our sports events.
     
  23. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Ever thought of pitching it as a TV show? Something like ‘Squid Games’.
     
  24. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    That might catch on, you know.
     
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  25. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    What do you mean joke ?

    He should be back for next season if we don’t get promoted , and if we do then Huddersfield would prob take up the loan to buy option no ?
     

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