[SOLD] Berghuis joins Feyenoord permanently

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by wfc124, Aug 25, 2015.

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  1. wfc124

    wfc124 Reservist

    Obviously none of us have seen enough of our new Dutch signing to make any judgment on his ability or potential yet but on paper this is the signing that should fit our 4-2-3-1 system considering that he is a winger. Maybe he is unfit, maybe the manger doesn't think he is good enough yet but out of our new permanent signings ( apart from the two that have been suspended) he has seen the least action. Our system is crying out for a talented winget yet QSF decided that Diamantai ( who did look unfit - considering his lack of running/mobility) was worth a half of football as soon as he was eligible to play but Berghuis ( who is behind Anya as regards to a first team place) wasnt worthy of a place on the bench.

    This begs the question - are we going to continue to play players out of position to suit the system? ( especially Ighalo and Jurado - in the last two home games) Or is Berghuis not ready for the premier league? which means we might as well try to sign at least one winger before the transfer window closes
     
  2. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    There's a difference between fitness (unfit) and strength (weak) in my mind and I think he falls into the latter category at the moment. If he's amenable to it my inclination would be to send him out on a month long loan to a top Championship club, with a view to extending it up to the maximum of 93 days after review on a monthly basis, and then take another look at him in December.
     
  3. miserableoldgit

    miserableoldgit Reservist

    When he bags a hat trick tonight you will change your mind!
     
  4. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Surely he'll get a chance to show what he can do tonight. I doubt we are yet in the position to spent £4 million or whatever it was on development players.

    Mind you Bournemouth seem to have done it with Mings except for £9 million!
     
  5. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Bloody hell give him a chance!
     
  6. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Outrageous, if Vydra was playing none of this would've happened.
     
  7. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    What is a Berghuis?
     
  8. wfc124

    wfc124 Reservist

    So are we relying on Anya for creativity from the wings?

    Something about the system doesn't seem to fit the attributes of our players. Deeney is not an Andy Carroll type striker. Jurado plays naturally in the number 10 role - he is not a winger.
     
  9. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    According to Wikki translate it's a mountain home. Hope that clarifies it for you.
     
  10. Rugbyballs

    Rugbyballs Reservist

    He made my fleece and ran coat
     
  11. Abso

    Abso First Year Pro


    Is he as good as Theo Walk Coat?
     
  12. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    But not as good as Sebastian 'Multiple' Coates.
     
  13. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Probably a more long term investment: Give him a few months getting up to speed physically and we'll probably see him start more.
     
  14. lotiman

    lotiman Reservist

    my impression is that he is homesick....never looks happy in any picture he's in and always talking about his close family/friends coming over.....

    he will take time to both settle and get fit....
     
  15. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Hill house ? Give the lad a chance. He is new to the league and it will take him to adjust. He has the technique and skill but please allow him time to bed in. He has hardly played much competitive football, is behind in his fitness preparation and will need to strengthen himself. He knows this himself. Lets not forget several Dutch players of yesteryear even Bergkamp too a while to bed in and he was older.
     
  16. Rookery Refugee

    Rookery Refugee Reservist

    If it's a strength issue, keep him here training, but lock in in the weight room for 2 hours every day, hand him a protein drink on the way in and a steak on the way out.

    Then send him on a loan.
     
  17. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Left his KD Laing CD back home
     
  18. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    The Sue Perkins of football isn't ready yet. Give him/her time.
     
  19. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    I don't think he'll feature again for us until he's improved his strength. He's as slender as a pencil! Granted, so am I but then again I'm not a professional footballer.
     
  20. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    So what was the point of that post?
     
  21. nisman94

    nisman94 International Man of Mystery

    You sure about that? Almost every report has had him down as one of our better players yesterday
     
  22. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    My point is that because I'm not a professional footballer, building my strength is not a priority for me as my work doesn't require it. Going to the gym for Berghuis on the other hand should be a priority, as the benefits of the gym will help him in his career.

    Understand?
     
  23. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Yeah I reckon so. I read that same report, but from the sounds of it nearly everyone played poorly so I don't think it's worth paying particular attention to anyone who 'stood out'.

    Now watch him start on Saturday!

    EDIT: Still need to watch the highlights to see Berghuis, but just not sure I can bring myself to do so. We sounded that bad..
     
  24. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    No not really. But then I couldn't give a flying...
     
  25. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Firstly, I don't know how how I can make my point clearer to you. I don't think it's that difficult to comprehend.

    Secondly, If you don't give a flying ****, why comment and ask what the point of my original post was?
     
  26. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    He's a quality footballer who just needs to fill out a bit. He knows it and the club knew it when they bought him probably. I think he's a bit of a 'project' personally. We snapped him up despite interest from elsewhere, the potential is there, us as fans just have to be a bit patient as I don't think he was signed necessarily to be an immediate starter.
     
  27. worcester_hornet

    worcester_hornet Reservist

    The same frame as Ashley Young? ;)
     
  28. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    He'll be in the squad, I think Quique has said that already. Just keep giving him 20 minutes from the bench to get used to the intensity of the Premier League and bulk him up a bit and we're laughing. I'm not entirely sure Watford fans have that patience though.
     
  29. Zolas Zebra

    Zolas Zebra Academy Graduate

    It's a jacket mate.
     
  30. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Fair point! It certainly wouldn't harm Berghuis though. I'm sure Quique's got him doing extra sessions.
     
  31. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

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  32. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Surely from now we will see him gradually play more and more of a role, as he carries out the necessary strength work to adapt to the league.

    Definitely said this before so sorry for repeating myself, but he would be far from the first import from a foreign league to have it be made public knowledge that he will require some time improving his strength and acclimatising before he settles in the league enough to start and finish games, and he's obviously a very talented player.

    Look at the transformation Ozil went through in a relatively short period of 2 or 3 months last season in order to cope with the physical demands of the league better; he completely overhauled his physique from a slight player to a physically robust one.

    Soon enough we'll forget all about the first few weeks and enjoy watching him as a player week in, week out, and I'd wager he's going to be a very important one.
     
  33. nascot

    nascot First Team

    Do you honestly think Watford fans are any different from fans of every other club in England? All football fans are impatient, fickle and one-eyed when it comes to their team.
     
  34. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Wow, did I say that? And looking around this forum, patience isn't really a 'thing' here, hence my comment.
     
  35. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Kenny?
     
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