He seems to speak out against bad decisions more than most. Maybe he isn't part of the PGMOL to feels he can do so more freely?
I'm in complete agreement with each of these two highlighted sentences. I think what's particularly strange about Gino's utterly determined silence, and something that possibly leads to it grating even more and getting fans' backs up disproportionately, is that he's not an absentee owner. There are enough of that type in the game, who pump in money and basically nothing else, often from a far-off tax haven, jetting in to town to appear at a big game once a season or so. But this is not Gino in the slightest - he's there every day! He's at the training ground, and, as made abundantly clear by Duxbury in that cringeworthy FTRE interview in the summer, essentially having the final say on every major decision. He's often pictured in the crowd at games, and as far as I'm aware, as a broad policy he always attends them. And yet, there he is, refusing to speak or make any real kind of address, ever. Because of that odd intersection of hyper-presence and hyper-silence, it can comes across as haughtiness - subconsciously reminiscent of a medieval ruler sitting on his throne, surveying his kingdom - a kingdom he has total control over, and answers to no one in terms of decision-making (unless he pisses off the nobles and they rise up and start a civil war/depose him and spread propaganda rumours that he had a hot poker shoved up his ass - but I, for one, don't suspect Scott is warming his implement in the fire as we speak). To be overly sensitive, there's a bit of an element of thumbing his nose in it, optics-wise - 'Yes, here I am, but don't you dare for a second imagine that entitles you to an explanation'. And that's strange in itself - I would have said that, as a proper businessman, I find it odd that Gino, or even one of his acolytes, haven't realised how badly this plays, but actually it isn't strange at all, is it, because PR mis-steps have abounded in recent times - not to mention all the other decision-making snafus that aren't PR-related. And, of course, the Twitter dribblers are still there lapping it up, as the WD18 chaps drone on about how on-flames the megnuts one of our midfielders did in the 59th minute of a loss was.
Can I just check please? Is that the recently ennobled Lord O'Hara of Billericay - former Treasurer of the Conservative Party - heading off for his first day at the House of Lords. He seems very familiar.
Agree, yesterday's decision could fall under something possibly not being clear and obvious, but the one at Leeds was very clear and very obviously wrong. Both decisions should of gone our way and we should of got a totally underserved (based on our play) point from each game. There's the luck when you are near the bottom of the table.
Like Arteta himself, Dermot G is as honest as the day is long. And he's always reffed absolutely fairly and objectively. "Big teams, little teams they deserve to be treated the same" is his mantra, I'm convinced. "Oohhh look, have you seen these lovely red Gooner sleeve logos they sent me for Christmas. They are iron-on ones, so practical and they show off my ref kit at its best. One-Nil to the Arsenal, One-Nil to the Arsenal, One-Nil to the Arsenal, One-Nil to the Arrrsss-enal"
Liked your post for overall sentiment but cannot fathom what 'on-flames the megnuts one of our midfielders did in the 59th minute of a loss was' Means
I agree with the broader points - but I still think people are massively jumping the gun in just assuming he wants out or has something lined up to do so and thats what the issue is. I think it's far more obvious that its a confidence/mentality problem. I have no doubt the Watford move was sold to him as a 'stepping stone' - but I don't think we are seeing a player downing tools just yet.
It's certainly not a given we will lose all of the next five, Leicester have been very erratic this season and apart from at Millwall in the League Cup haven't kept a clean sheet since beating Wolves 1-0 on the opening day of the Prem season. They've lost at Brighton, only narrowly won at Norwich and drawn at Leeds and were held 2-2 at home to Burnley - if they can get a draw there so can we at least. Also their stats are almost identical to Everton's and we've won a few times at Leicester, which is more than we could say about Everton before we faced them.
Doubt it, I imagine there are many underachieving clubs in the divisions below at which the team spirit is worst and the respect for their managers is the same if not worse - Sheffield United, Cardiff, Barnsley, Sunderland, Sheffield Wednesday, Portsmouth, Charlton, Bradford, Oldham and Carlisle going down the leagues. There were several players patting Foster on the back for that save so I'd imagine there is some kind of bond, certainly seemed to be in the run-in to promotion last season thanks to WTE pulling them together.
Not saying we're guaranteed to lose to Leicester, but this is a huge reach that doesn't really stand up to any scrutiny. Burnley are a far-better organised and more cohesive team than we are, and have now been in the Prem for five consecutive seasons.
Did you take their seat numbers? London Transport can look into it and have their oyster cards docked.
Yes yes and ******* yes, Watford they have had 14 managers in the last 12 mins , arteta is about to hit 100 matches , well no Watford manager has done that since blah, oh did you know Watford have had 14 manages yes we get it you ******* **** , please , please for the love of god at least look at the Watford wiki page so when you are not talking ******** about the big side we are playing you can at least say something about the club. I think the low in the commentary was in the first 10 mins when they couldn’t understand why Kiko was getting pissed off about the bad ref decisions even though they accepted they were wrong
Imagine Sky Sports commentators as comedians. Performing to a specific audience. A Roy ‘Chubby’ Brown audience if you will. If you fall outside the audience it’s aimed at, you’ll be disgusted and angered at the things said. That’s what it was, a performance catered to Arsenal fans. Because it’s a 6 team league. Every weekend finds at least 5 of them live on one channel or another. It’s nothing new at all and for the most part, no one cares. You can hear the boredom in their voices if they aren’t commentating on the big boys. If you consider it like that, it might not anger you as much.
agrees, but would nice to hear something different occasionally, for instance Watford are **** , not because they have had 14 managers , but because they keep buying old players past their best Pundits really have only have 2 facts about Watford we have had lots of manager Sarr is quick and a real danger
Like Chumlax commented, I am not stating that we are guaranteed to lose all of the fixtures But we will be coming up against some of the best squads in this league. If we can't get points which is likely, then the least I would expect and hope for is for Ranieri to implement his ideas and we start look more organised and cohesive.
I liked the way JP was trying to find space, he's very clever for someone so inexperienced. Unfortunately I don't think our midfield has enough about it to allow him to roam as the number 10, we need three bodies in there. I'd like to see what he can do as the striker, King has done well but we saw last season JP can be excellent at linking up the play from that position.
He's visibly downed tools. The reasons why are in question, but downed they have been, for some weeks.
Yeah maybe in this moment there are slightly more rancid clubs, but to achieve consistent rancid toxicity over 3 or 4 seasons is a hallmark of the Pozzo model.
They clearly don't have a lot of quality though and for many games organisation won't help them much. They finished 17th last season and nine of their 39 points were picked up against relegated sides who were miles below the rest and they conceded 1.66 goals per game against non-relegated sides and 1.55 this season (not much better than us), which suggests that this organisation still isn't resulting in a very solid defence. Also, they've played the same opponents as we have in seven of their fixtures, yet have three fewer points despite having home advantage in four of them against our two, as you can see when you compare ours and theirs side by side: Brighton (a) 0-2 Brighton (h) 1-2 Norwich (a) 3-1 Norwich (h) 0-0 Leeds (a) 0-1 Leeds (h) 1-1 Liverpool (h) 0-5 Liverpool (a) 0-2 Everton (a) 5-2 Everton (a) 1-3 Southampton (h) 0-1 Southampton (a) 2-2 Arsenal (a) 0-1 Arsenal (h) 0-1 I don't think I'm being over-confident about our chances of staying up when I say we could get at least a point at Leicester and that there is very little between us and Burnley, obviously I hope the difference is in our favour if we can only find two other clubs to finish above!
But then we don’t need to be as good as the likes of Wolves, Everton, Palace, Leicester and Brighton - we just need to be less crap than three other sides!
There aren't going to be three sides worse than us. Newcastle will get out of it I'd imagine now they've got money and a competent coach. Even though this might be Burnley's year they're certainly going to put up a good fight as well.
I agree with you HH, I would give Kiko 7 ,Kucka 7, and King 6, as for the rest I would go along with that list.
Think he's one of those Z-List 'YooToob' Celebs you see boxing washed up bums in the ring now days - We've had Jake Paul and Logan Paul - I think that ones called Paul'd Pork.
[QUOTE="Where I do think Watford quite probably need to be careful is in the way they deal with these players as humans.[/QUOTE] What was the issue regarding cup final bonuses? That seemed to create bad blood in the squad. Did it contribute to the players saying fark it the following season when things started going t1ts up?
Probably explains the disproportionately high number of Manchester United "supporters" from these areas.
What Gino really needs to tell us is: What is his favourite cheese; Does he prefer Y-fronts, briefs or boxers; Where does he stand on the Badger vs Baboon debate?; and would he be embarrassed carrying root vegetables into the ground on a matchday?
They are lost now Deeneys left he used to be a go to sentance when commentating... Deeney is <insert one of the below> Talisman Mr Watford Watfords danger man Effective Big and strong This was through his prolonged decline, its just frustrating. Do some research pre match surely its not that hard
They don’t want any of that. They just want the likes of Jamie Carragher to scream ‘Mo Salah, you little dancer’ in the strongest scouse, so the little town of Liverpool can collectively punch the air and not work out that for many years, The Sun and Sky were the same people.
The sound of Carragher calling the Liverpool players by their first name is one of the many reasons why I hate the Premier League.
