2022 - 2023 Squad

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by EB Hornet, Jun 22, 2022.

  1. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    I’d not heard of him, can’t lie! Probably more attainable. Though why not aim high first, work our way down :D
     
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  2. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Squad is beginning to take shape now. If we line up after the window with this, then we are looking very good for the championship.

    (Playing a back 4)

    Bachmann

    Gaspar, Sierralta, Clarke/Greaves/Hause, Kamara

    Choudhury Louza O’Hare*

    Sarr Davis Pedro

    (Playing a back 3/5)

    Bachmann

    Gaspar/Kaba, Sierralta, Clarke/Greaves/Hause

    Drameh/Norton-Cuffy Choudhury Louza, Pedro, Kamara

    Sarr Davis

    * Someone like him
     
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  3. WalthamstowHornet

    WalthamstowHornet Academy Graduate

    I thought we looked pretty compact with a back 4 last night. I know 352 is Rob's preferred formation but in the absence of a proper RWB signing I can't see how we can play it. I think 433 will also suit Sarr more if he stays.
     
  4. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Updated with all recent activity.

    Non-Home Grown (Rule of Eleven) (currently 14 ) Home Grown (currently 16) Total - 30

    Maduka Okoye GK
    Daniel Bachmann GK
    Ben Hamer GK

    Mario Gaspar RWB
    Jeremy Ngakia RWB
    Joseph Hungbo RWB

    Hassane Kamara LWB
    Ken Sema LWB

    James Morris LWB

    Cristian Kabasele CB
    Francisco Sierralta CB

    Craig Cathcart CB
    William Troost-Ekong CB
    Mattie Pollock CB

    Edo Kayembe MF
    Imran Louza MF
    Yaser Asprilla MF

    Hamza Choudhury MF
    Tom Dele-Bashiru MF
    Dan Gosling MF
    Tom Cleverley MF
    Domingos Quina MF

    Vakoun Bayo FW
    Rey Manaj FW
    Joao Pedro FW
    Samuel Kalu FW
    Ismaila Sarr FW

    Keinan Davis FW
    Kwadwo Baah FW
    Ashley Fletcher FW

    Don’t think I’ve missed anyone in or out? Non HG been cut quite significantly now.
     
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  5. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

  6. WalthamstowHornet

    WalthamstowHornet Academy Graduate

    Baah has also gone out on loan.
     
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  7. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Ahh yes! I’ll wait until the next move happens so not to spam the thread too much. Looks like Fletcher could be going out
     
  8. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Fletchers gone already
     
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  9. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Oh blimey, I’m going to have to learn to navigate the official site a little more thoroughly (in my defence, I’ve been away this weekend at a wedding and only just caught up with my sleep!)
     
  10. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Updated with my lazy missed off the list outgoings!

    Non-Home Grown (Rule of Eleven) (currently 14 ) Home Grown (currently 14) Total - 28

    Maduka Okoye GK
    Daniel Bachmann GK
    Ben Hamer GK

    Mario Gaspar RWB
    Jeremy Ngakia RWB
    Joseph Hungbo RWB

    Hassane Kamara LWB
    Ken Sema LWB

    James Morris LWB

    Cristian Kabasele CB
    Francisco Sierralta CB

    Craig Cathcart CB
    William Troost-Ekong CB
    Mattie Pollock CB

    Edo Kayembe MF
    Imran Louza MF
    Yaser Asprilla MF

    Hamza Choudhury MF
    Tom Dele-Bashiru MF
    Dan Gosling MF
    Tom Cleverley MF
    Domingos Quina MF

    Vakoun Bayo FW
    Rey Manaj FW
    Joao Pedro FW
    Samuel Kalu FW
    Ismaila Sarr FW

    Keinan Davis FW
     
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  11. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    With 4 players under 21 therefore not counting towards the 25 man squad means still could add another one and no one miss out

    those 4 being Pedro, Morris, Asprilla and Pollock
     
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  12. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    I think the lack of noise about a RWB being signed and the fact we signed Gaspar infers we might be playing 433, which allows us to play 3 up top without undermanning the midfied
     
  13. poakley

    poakley Academy Graduate

    So with Quina out the door we need
    LCB
    RWB (although looks like Gaspar is that signing)
    2 x CM

    All of these need to be HG to meet the much touted rule of 11 requirements. Or have I missed something on the U21 players?
     
  14. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Still plenty of work to be done, to balance the squad out.
     
  15. CarlosKickaballs

    CarlosKickaballs Forum Picarso

    Last edited: Aug 20, 2022
  16. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    So, as a minimum, we very, very clearly need:

    - A proper RWB. Gaspar isn't one and the alternative of wasting Kamara there is laughable. Insane it's still happening.

    - At least one centre back so that we finally have that balance on the left hand side that Edwards has been talking about for about two months.

    - Two CM's. Quina now gone, TDB injured, Cleverley and Gosling old and awful, Kayembe painfully average, Louza still out.

    - A striker. Bayo and Manaj are both pathetic and should be nothing but back up, and Davis is currently unfit and hasn't proven himself a real goalscorer.

    We are miles off a promotion winning side right now, regardless of the league position after five games in which we have had Sarr, Pedro and even Dennis for the first couple, all of which are about to be gone.
     
  17. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I predict we'll get a centre back on loan but he'll be right footed and no better than what we have. We'll then make a failed late attempt for Archer despite Gerrard saying he's staying at Villa, so we'll go with Davis, Manaj and Bayo. Ngakia will also leave on deadline day ensuring that Gaspar is left as the only RWB in the squad. As he looks like he can't play twice in a week Kamara will have to fill in on the right every other game.
     
  18. poakley

    poakley Academy Graduate

    Pin this post as it's painfully accurate to what will end up happening
     
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  19. So depressing tonight after initial hope that with RE and the talk of backing the manager that we are where we are tonight.

    I started the season feeling dubious. After a couple of games I became hopeful. This evening I'm just depressed that I feel we've learn nothing, the talk from the club is all BS and this season is going to be a harsh awakening.
     
  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Well it depends on if you truly believed that Sarr/Dennis in particular would stay that you might feel let down so much or if we were going to spend money to improve the squad.
     
  21. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    If we keep JP and sign a goalscorer, I don't see how that isn't overkill in the forward positions. Bayo to be loaned out this season. I'm calling it now.
     
  22. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    If we go to 4-3-3:

    WFC20220830.jpg
     
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  23. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    With the window now slammed shut here’s what I think our best 11 is in various formations. Whatever way you look at it, the starting 11 when fully fit in all the formations below is arguably the strongest in the league. Could it of/have been made stronger, definitely. That’s the annoying thing, had we signed 1/2 more players in areas we needed, I honestly think that we would walk the league. It’s all down to Rob to coach them in a way that brings the best out in them and create a strong team work ethic. Need our backroom staff doing everything they can to keep the below players fit and healthy for most of the season. The below starting 11’s if played for 35-40 games, we will go up.

    (343)
    Bachmann
    Kaba Sierralta Hause
    Ngakia Choudhury Louza Kamara
    Sarr Davis Pedro

    (3412)
    Bachmann
    Kaba Sierralta Hause
    Ngakia Choudhury Louza Kamara
    Pedro
    Sarr Davis

    (352)
    Bachmann
    Kaba Sierralta Hause
    Ngakia Choudhury Pedro Louza Kamara
    Sarr Davis

    (4231)
    Bachmann
    Ngakia Sierralta Hause Kamara
    Choudhury Louza
    Sarr Pedro Sema
    Davis

    (4213)
    Bachmann
    Ngakia Sierralta Hause Kamara
    Choudhury Louza
    Pedro
    Sarr Davis Sema

    (433)
    Bachmann
    Ngakia Sierralta Hause Kamara
    Choudhury Asprilla Louza
    Sarr Davis Pedro

    (4312)
    Bachmann
    Ngakia Sierralta Hause Kamara
    Choudhury Asprilla Louza
    Pedro
    Sarr Davis
     
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  24. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I think the final squad list had to be submitted the day after the window closed. Have I missed it or did we not bother releasing it?
     
  25. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Found it.

    Screenshot_20220916-223808_Samsung Notes.jpg
    Screenshot_20220916-223821_Samsung Notes.jpg
     
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  26. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    HG:
    Bachmann (‘24), Cathcart (‘23), Choudhury (loan), Cleverley (‘23), Davis (loan), Dele-Bashiru (‘25), Gosling (‘23), Hamer (‘24), Hause (loan), Hungbo (‘24), Ngakia (‘25), Troost-Ekong (‘25)
    [12]

    Overseas:
    Bacuna (‘23), Bayo (‘27), Gaspar (‘24), Kabasele (‘24), Kalu (‘25), Kamara (loan), Kayembe (‘26), Louza (‘28), Manaj (‘25), Martins* (loan), Okoye (‘27), Sarr (‘24), Sema (‘25), Sierralta (‘27)
    [14]

    Total squad size is 26 - though Gosling may be omitted if he’s out for the season. That would mean all 25 available slots filled.

    Non-HG U21 - Players born on/after 01.01.01, who haven’t played 3 years in England/Wales. E.g.:
    Angelini (‘23+1), Asprilla (?), Koné (‘27)
    [3]

    Total non-HG players - 17. Only 11 are allowed in a matchday squad.


    HG U21 - Players born on/after 01.01.01, with at least 3 years in England/Wales, eg:
    João Pedro (‘28), Morris (‘24 +1), Pollock (‘26)

    *Is young enough to qualify as U21, but if he’s on loan then he’s required to be submitted in our squad, taking up one of the 25 places.
     
  27. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Fully expect him to be lining up for Udinese come the summer, but does anyone actually know if Martins is a loan signing or a perm? Could have serious knock-on effects on our plans for Sarr
     
  28. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

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    Last edited: Jan 11, 2023
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  29. Moosedog

    Moosedog Reservist

  30. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Yes, noticed that and updated it (probably while you were typing!)
     
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  31. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    You only had to wait 3 weeks for an answer! Actually not bad by Watford’s standards. I still don’t know whether Kucka was loan or permanent.
     
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  32. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

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  33. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    A neat summary of 4 years of Pozzo decision making.
     
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  34. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    The full back situation is laughable, as every fan pointed out in the summer. We've stockpiled absolute dross at centre back and in midfield. The winger and striker situation is vomit inducing, just look at the money we've spunked on Sarr, Kalu and Bayo. For ten years we've heard that Pozzo is a football man, he knows the game, player trading is his specialty blah blah blah. Well he certainly does a lot of player trading but unfortunately he brings in absolute crap, extends the contracts of absolute crap and we're now left with a huge steaming pile of absolute crap on the pitch.
     
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  35. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Saw somewhere that the squad had to submitted by 3pm UK time. So hopefully today we will find out the squad.
     

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