2022 - 2023 Squad

Could someone post the full squad including HG status and position in here please and for it to be a place to come back to and discuss.

As a polite plea - any chance just one thread (this one) could be free from the 'COG' 'Bedwetter' 'Mogi' 'Lessons learned' etc posts. They have become massively boring and tiring to read constantly.

Thanks for both!

 

Good luck with that.

 

Non-Home Grown (Rule of Eleven)
Vakoun Bayo CF - unconfirmed signing
Kiko Femenia RB
Cristian Kabasele CB
Samir CB
Edo Kayembe MF
Francisco Sierralta CB
Hassane Kamara LB
Imran Louza MF
Ken Sema MF
Samuel Kalu RW
Maduka Okoye GK

NHG but likely to go/have gone
Emmanuel Dennis
Ismaila Sarr
Adam Masina
Moussa Sissoko
Ignacio Pussetto
Adalberto Penaranda
Pontus Dahlberg
Juergen Elitim
Philip Zinckernagel - selling to Olympiacos £1.6m
Cucho Hernandez - sold to Columbus Crew £8.6m
Joshua King - released
Kwasi Sibo - loan to Betis Deportivo
Nicolas Nkoulou - released
Juraj Kucka - released
Peter Etebo - end of loan

Home Grown
Tom Dele-Bashiru MF
Ashley Fletcher FW
Craig Cathcart CB
Dan Gosling MF
Daniel Bachmann GK
Rob Elliot GK
Tom Cleverley MF
William Troost-Ekong CB
Domingos Quina MF

HG but likely to go/have gone
Danny Rose
Ben Foster - released
Andre Gray - released

Under 23 of first team consideration
Adian Manning MF
James Morris LB
Jeremy Ngakia RB
Joao Pedro FW
Joseph Hungbo RW
Kwadwo Baah LW
Mattie Pollock CB
Ryan Andrews LB/RB
Shaq Forde FW
Vincent Angelini GK
Yaser Asprilla MF
Dapo Mebude FW
Tiago Cukur FW

 

Blimey that HG list looks depressing. Is WTE really HG ?

 

Ludicrously, u21 players who have not trained in England/Wales for 3 years count against the Rule of 11. That includes Scottish players so for Rule 11 purposes, Pedro (until Jan), Asprilla, Cukur, Mebude and Angelini would also be considered foreign.

 

Wow.....I didn't know that. That's a bit of a shocker, although it shouldn't really effect us too much. Only Pedro and Aprilla would be first team players from that lot, and as you say, Pedro drops off the list in January. Angelini at a push if we're hit with a couple of keeper injuries.

 

It does inhibit Angelini/Dahlberg’s chances of being number 2 or even in the squad.

 

Mogi Bayat trying to find some English players to get on his books as we speak

 

Should these 4 be in the homegrown list? Given they've been given a lot of PR by the club previously, or in the case of Ngakia played a fair few games.

 

Took 7 posts.

Possibly a forum record though.

 

I was looking at this yesterday, I'd probably include Femenia in the 'going/sell' list. Otherwise largely agree with that, if Asprilla is any good, perhaps he can take a slot but maybe a loan for him.

I am surprised to see Samir and Kamara in our squad for this season. I thought they would be agitating for moves away but if they are prepared to fight for the cause, good on them I say.

 

Accidentally posted my list in the quote above.

 

That is an awful, awful squad.
I am not sure that in is good enough for the Championship.
What a depressing time to be a Watford FC.
All the BS from the CEO regarding promotion back to the Premier league. This is a pipe dream with the current squad.
Avoid relegation to League One would a plus for next season.

 

It's honestly a horrible looking squad. The fact that we are still relying on Cleverley, Gosling, Kabasele, Cathcart etc is laughable.

 

Yes, he went to school in Bishops Stortford. He was in Fulhams academy from ages 15-17 then joined the Tottenham academy at 17 and stayed there until he was 20.

 

Andrew French sought clarification from the club - Quina counts as homegrown. Other than that your list looks good.

 

Just read that report again and he says he's not HG.

Edit - sorry unless you mean he's checked that one since posting the article?

 

Yes, he has checked since writing the article. I assume it will be updated if it hasn't already.

 

Please read the OP

"As a polite plea - any chance just one thread (this one) could be free from the 'COG' 'Bedwetter' 'Mogi' 'Lessons learned' etc posts. They have become massively boring and tiring to read constantly."

 

Non-Home Grown (Rule of Eleven) (currently 21)

Maduka Okoye GK
Vincent Angelini GK
Pontus Dahlberg GK

Kiko Femenia RB
Hassane Kamara LB
Adam Masina LB
Cristian Kabasele CB
Francisco Sierralta CB
Samir CB

Edo Kayembe MF
Moussa Sissoko MF
Imran Louza MF
Ken Sema MF
Philip Zinckernagel MF
Yaser Asprilla MF

Samuel Kalu RW
Ismaila Sarr RW

Emmanuel Dennis FW
Adalberto Penaranda FW
Dapo Mebude FW
Joao Pedro FW

Home Grown (currently 14 – so 35 in total)

Daniel Bachmann GK
Rob Elliot GK

Jeremy Ngakia RB
James Morris LB

Craig Cathcart CB
William Troost-Ekong CB
Mattie Pollock CB

Tom Dele-Bashiru MF
Dan Gosling MF
Tom Cleverley MF
Domingos Quina MF

Joseph Hungbo RW
Kwadwo Baah LW

Ashley Fletcher FW


Possible Extras / Unknowns

Pussetto
Elitim
Sibo
Bayo
Manning
Rose
Andrews
Forde
Cukur

Have moved Quina

 

is there a similar U21 rule in the championship ?

 

If people feel this way, then they should be free to air their views.
Surely, the fans forum are not trying to paper of the cracks?
Let's see what happens this season. If those members who have given criticism are wrong, then perhaps you ban them next season.
Good luck with that.

 

What a wonderful group of human beings we have.
With their skills, attitude and flair we will waltz the Championship, win the league Cup and bury the opposition in the FA Cup final.
A sell out stadium will be seen as opposed to the 1,000's of no-shows last season.
Harmonious singing and clapping unheard of in peace time will ring around Vicarage Road as Scott Duxbury is lifted upon the shoulders of joyous credit worthy players and paraded from the ground.
Commissions for the statue are sent out to all artists.
In 2023/24 the squad blaze a trail through the Premier league and look forward to a Champions league campaign in 2024/25.

 

That seems harsh that Mebude would fall under the rule. I mean he was born in London and didnt move to Scotland until he was 10. Then again it seems crazy to me that Scottish/Welsh u21 players would count against the rule of 11 anyway

Also, who the hell is this Juergen Elitim chap? Dont recall hearing of him before

 

Good to see you haven't learned your lesson from 2020/21, where you predicted relegation to League 1, and we went on to get promoted fairly comfortably with a record breaking defensive record.

Actually a pretty good omen for the upcoming campaign that you're expressing the same sentiments.

 

I said avoiding relegation will be a plus. That is one up from last time.
Tiny steps, tiny steps

 

Given there were clues on yesterday's club video with the formation boards behind Edwards, it looks like we'll be shaping up in a 3-4-1-2 formation. With that in mind, I've tried to apply our current squad to see how it fits and where we need reinforcements, in 1-2-3 order. I've left out those who I believe will be gone.

GK
1. Okoye
2. new number 2
3. Elliot

LCB
1. Samir

Central CB
1. Sierralta
2. Pollock
3. WTE

RCB
1. Cathcart
2. Kabasele

LWB
1. Kamara
2. Sema (converted to this position)
3. Morris

RWB
1. Kiko
2. Hungbo (converted to this position)
3. Ngakia

2 midfield positions
1. Cleverley, Louza
2. Gosling, Kayembe
3. TDB, Manning

Number 10
1. Pedro
2. Aprilla
3. Quina

Forwards
1. ?????, ?????
2. Bayo, ?????
3. Forde, Fletcher

Can't see where Baah or Kalu fit


So the best team I can create, right now, is:-

....................Okoye
...Cathcart, Sierralta, Samir
Kiko, Cleverley, Louza, Kamara
...................Pedro
..........??????, ??????

 

We're in a far worse state this summer than last time IMO

With the exception of JP, Louza and Kamara the squad on paper today looks mid table champ at best and the indications so far are that incomings are going to be both minimal and mediocre in quality at best

I really see us having a 'second season under Zola' type campaign this year, I fear its going to be horrible

 

Isn't Hungbo a left sided player?

 

No....he can play on that side, but predominantly he plays on the right.

 

More 'strawmanning' than a Worzel Gummidge convention.

 

But is left footed

 

Yes, but you asked if he was left sided, and I said he's mostly played on the right.