2021-22 Squad

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by hornetboy1, Mar 21, 2021.

  1. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    I think the squad is starting to look clearer. I’d guess it will look something like:
    1 - Bachmann
    2 - Foster
    3 - Elliot
    4 - Femenía
    5 - Sierralta
    6 - Troost-Ekong
    7 - Cathcart
    8 - Kabasele
    9 - Masina
    10 - Rose
    11 - Etebo
    12 - Kucka
    13 - Louza
    14 - Tufan
    15 - Cleverley
    16 - Gosling
    17 - Sarr
    18 - Sema
    19 - Hernández
    20 - Dennis
    21 - King
    22 - Deeney
    23 - Fletcher
    (U21) Ngakia
    (U21) João Pedro

    Sell:
    Chalobah
    Gray
    Hughes
    Navarro
    Quina
    Success

    Loan:
    Baah
    Pollock

    That leaves two spots, hopefully one will be taken by a new CB. I also think a new RB is a distinct possibility with Ngakia then going out on loan.
     
  2. RS2

    RS2 Reservist

    Deeney won't be happy being given the number 22.
     
  3. GarbeliaHornet

    GarbeliaHornet Academy Graduate

    One spot for Lyanco, one spot for Chalobah and Ngakia's spot for a RB.
     
  4. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Baah will probably play in the EFL cup and then get loaned somewhere afterwards.

    Looking at the list posted by @simpleMASH we look like we have 9 HG players in the 23 spots so far. So there will be no necessity to keep either Hughes or Chalobah.
     
  5. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    We’ve actually got 11 in that list, so well over the minimum 8 needed to register a full-sized squad.
     
  6. HeiaWatford

    HeiaWatford First Year Pro

    Slowly but surely. It's turning into a very good window.
    Shift the deadwood and get a new CB in, hopefully Lyanco and it could be an amazing window. My optimism is rising.
     
  7. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    I agree if we get Lyanco and shift Gray, Success and Navaro that would turn the window into the "excellent" category.

    As for Hughes, if he ends up north of the border that would be brilliant as it would mean not selling to a rival.
     
  8. HeiaWatford

    HeiaWatford First Year Pro

    I still reckon he ends up in the Championship. Can see a Muff, Albion or Fulham transfer.
     
  9. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    Easy to forget we signed Josh King. He is training today.

    Can't wait for the relief on the face of defenders when Dennis gets subbed, only to see that King is coming on.

    Three forwards with incredible pace. Cucho and João are no slouches either.
     
  10. GarbeliaHornet

    GarbeliaHornet Academy Graduate

    How on earth did you forget our quickest forward?


    Troy will run them ragged!
     
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  11. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Since we gave him the big build-up, I wonder if he's in line to start at Brighton? Seems a bit late to be doing welcome videos
     
  12. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Bachmann
    Foster
    Elliott

    Kiko
    (Ngakia)
    Masina
    Rose
    Sierralta
    WTE
    Kabasele
    Cathcart
    (Pollock)
    Navarro

    Etebo
    Kucka
    Tufan
    Cleverley
    Louza
    Gosling
    Chalobah
    Hughes
    Quina


    Sarr
    Dennis
    Cucho
    Fletcher
    Deeney
    Sema
    King
    (Joao Pedro)
    Gray


    Squad at the moment, reckon it's almost complete in terms of incomings, maybe one or two more defenders at a push (depending on outgoings)

    28 over 21s, 4 of whom are strongly linked with moves away (plus Navarro to that list as surely he has no future here lol), get rid of them all (or if any of them do stay, not listing them the squad) and we have 2 spaces, which we could use to bring in a CB and a RB to allow Ngakia to go out on loan, if one of them stays (ie Hughes/Chalobah), I imagine it'd be either a CB or a RB
     
  13. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    *One week left of the summer transfer window*

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  14. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    The 4 I would like to lose are: - Navarro; Success; Gray & Deeney :)

    However, along with Success it is more likely to be Hughes; Chalobah & Quina :(
     
  15. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Deeney not in the squad for the game on now...could this finally be it?!
     
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  16. GarbeliaHornet

    GarbeliaHornet Academy Graduate

    I reckon Success, Navarro, Gray and Quina will go. Hughes possibly interchanged with Navarro or Quina.
     
  17. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Nice visuals, might be time to update it ;)
     
  18. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Yeah, Fletcher needs moving in to a striker/winger role like Hernández and Dennis.
     
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  19. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Have to say, I’ve been following developments a little too closely and have started to confuse myself with all the permutations of what our final squad could be.

    To clarify (for myself more than anything):
    We currently, officially at least, have 30 players over-21 at the club. So 5 need to go -
    1) Hughes is probably already gone but just not announced,
    2+3) Navarro and Alvarado will both surely be off, on loan at least and
    4) Quina is rumoured to be about to go too.
    That only means one more departure is needed.

    Deeney and Gray have been linked with moves away, so either of them going brings our squad down to size. Both leaving would allow us to make a signing.

    Let’s not muddy things with the talk that potentially Chalobah or Gosling could leave as well. We’ll see what happens over the weekend!
     
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  20. magic

    magic Statto & Vordamen's lovechild

    Hughes, Deeney, Success, Gray and presumably Navarro out.

    with Sissoko included that's a full squad

    if someone else comes in then you expect it's for Quina or they fall in the U21 category.
     
  21. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    I think Quina will go tomorrow. No way do we need 9 midfielders.

    I am expecting a new CB though. If Navarro stays he won’t be included in the 25 man squad.
     
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  22. magic

    magic Statto & Vordamen's lovechild

    With Pollock gone out on loan a CB seems likely (hopefully)
     
  23. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    A centre back and right back capable of challenging Kiko would be nice.


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  24. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    I hope they've taken the hint when Cathcart hobbled off and Kiko has been injured since the end of last season.
     
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  25. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Obviously this is a simplistic view, and I know a lot of our players can play in various positions. But I find this an easier visual over the columns and cross over positions

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  26. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I think we should possibly play 4231 and largely cut out the tippy tappy stuff out from the back. We should revert to God's long passing game to use the pace we have up front to best effect. In other words ATTACK should be our best form of defence which would hopefully give us enough wins to survive in the PL this season.

    Maybe our 1st eleven could look something like: - Foster; Rose or Masina; Sierralta; Kabaselle or WTE; Kiko or Ngakia; Etebo & Kucka in front of the back four; Then the front four maybe in a diamond shape: - Cucho; possibly Sissoko or even Pedro when fit at the base of the Diamond, Dennis out left; Sarr out right and King up front.
     
  27. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I'd go with Tufan ahead of Sissoko and WTE ahead of Kabasele (I know your feelings on that!), but otherwise agreed (though I recognise the first XI won't be set in stone)
     
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  28. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Agreed that we shouldn't rely upon passing out from the back with WTE, but...it's obvious that our pace up front is our best asset, we shouldn't be exclusively aiming to hit long balls over the top as opposition defences can easily combat that
     
  29. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

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    Barring any free transfers, that's us until January. With 2 spaces left I really hope the club have something up their sleeves for the defence.
     
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  30. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    The defence is a nightmare. Cathcart is now 32 (33 in Feb), Kabs is 31 in Feb. Sierralta and WTE are good ages being 23 and 28, but once you get over 30, your body does fail you more. It's normal to pick up injuries and slightly longer to recover from them.

    If we're guaranteed no injuries all season, we should be able to get away with it, although Troost-Ekong is going to AFCON and Sierralta will be playing for Chile (or suspended if he doesn't if that report is true). I heard AL mention Masina could be used as cover (yes the Masina who allowed Duffy to beat him all ends up to head a goal for Brighton), plus he's at AFCON also. I think Kucka could play at CB, but he's also 34 and has already been out with an injury in his short Watford career.

    As you say, hopefully they have something up their sleeve in the out-of-contract market, or else we've been negligent in this area of the team (once again).
     
  31. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    Only Cathcart & Kiko left at the club now from the eleven that started the cup final. That's quite a clear out.
     
  32. The good news is a revamped MF and strikers, plus the ability to slash costs if we are relegated. The bad news is little defensive strengthening, plus many players on loan who may be less committed and will leave significant holes if, as is very possible, we are relegated.
     
  33. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    Good.

    A team that is capable of getting to a cup final and chasing Europe one season - only to get relegated the next season - shows a lack of application. We had some talent for sure, but the fact that only Doucoure and Capoue have moved up a level shows that there wasn't a great deal of it.

    Sheffield United showed a similar trait. Work hard and you will achieve. Believe that you are good enough to drop your levels and you get relegated.

    Thanks to the pandemic, we were unable to show our disgust for that pathetic relegation squad. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
     
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  34. WalthamstowHornet

    WalthamstowHornet Academy Graduate

    Just had a look at that starting eleven. We literally started Adrian Mariappa in an FA Cup Final.
     
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  35. RS2

    RS2 Reservist

    Just the defence to go. Hopefully that'll happen next summer whatever division we're in. Cathcart, Kabasele, Kiko and possibly Masina out, younger fresher legs in.
     

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