Summerwolf - Chapter 2 'monsters And Men'

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Optimistichornet, Jun 23, 2022.

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Who should be lynched?

  1. Domthehornet

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  2. Cthulhu

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  7. BigRossLittleRoss

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  8. Cassetti's Beard

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  10. Steve Leo Beleck

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  14. SkylaRose

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  15. Harrow Orn

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  18. Burnsy

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  1. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    :eek::eek::eek:
     
  2. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    There aren't any additional clues in the end of the messages so suggest people stop wasting their time looking for them. Don't forget that outside their two views, the Seer has no more insight than the rest of us.

    They are doing it because at some point (hopefully after tonight) it will become clear which messages are the Seer's. At this point, we know what format to look out for and the wolf will have to switch up their style to try to copy it to be believed.
     
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  3. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    CLARIFICATION - wolves can indeed kill other wolves.
     
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  4. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Didn't raise many suspicions but gone for CB. General consensus is that the second message is a wolf, so we might ignore the view of CB. Could be a double bluff. He also voted the same way as Otter immediately afterwards last night.
     
  5. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Is day 2 usually so quiet? I'm assuming people working
     
  6. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Only way to learn something is lynch one of the named players I think.

    1. We lynch Cassetti's Beard.

    a) he is evil - hooray! We confirm which the Seer's messages are
    b) he's good - boooo! Highly likely to have been the wolf sending that message. Hard lines for him if he did happen to be the tinker but odds on that happening are 1/18 (20 players, Seer already viewed Ctulhu and isn't going to view themselves)

    2. We lynch Harrow.

    a) he is evil - hooray! We were onto something with looking back at Otter's posts. Would now know that the second message was indeed from the Seer and can take out CB tomorrow.
    b) he is good - boooo! Makes it highly likely (but not definite) that the first messages are the Seer's. It is still possible that they did decide to view CB though.

    If we lynch a random takes us no further forward.
     
  7. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Agreed, there is the possibility of switched styles but think that would be very bold.

    Message 1 and Message 2 today are from the same people in the same order me thinks.
     
  8. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I don't think it's even a possibility of switched styles. It only ever makes sense for the Wolf to switch to copy the Seer, it's illogical the other way round.

    We have two clear sets of messages, just need to work out which is the Seer.
     
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  9. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Really interesting post, thanks.

    If the part in bold is true, it’s likely that both posters will retain their style tomorrow, which helps team good.
     
  10. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    I'd disagree, not wholey, with this. It the job of the traitor, wolves, seer and possibly a Witness if we have one to share what they know and to communicate to their teams, using their messages
     
  11. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Am I right in thinking that if we lynch Cassettes beard, we pretty much find out which message will be from the seer?
     
  12. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Pretty much, not 100% but we'd have a high probability.

    If he's evil, then either the Seer viewed him or the wolf has been very unlucky and named a team mate.

    If he's good, then can't have been the Seer unless CB very unlucky and is the tinker.
     
  13. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I’m still utterly baffled by @SkylaRose post earlier mind you!
     
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  14. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Yeah but the person making the posts can only be the Seer or the Wolf. Neither is going to hint at their own identity and put a target on their back. And at this stage, they don't know for definite any more than whatever's in the Seer's messages so they can't hint at other people's roles.
     
  15. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Second message is wolfy, therefore, the first message is more than likely the alpha wolf clearing their name after a few fingers of suspicion were pointed towards Harrow Orn.

    Even if the consensus is to go for me tonight at least you know to go for Harrow tomorrow.

    #TeamGood
     
  16. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Both messages can't be from the wolf !
     
  17. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Sit on the fence more regarding the messages! ;)
     
  18. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    In all seriousness, i'm thinking whilst no clearer on which message is from which sender, by taking the second at face value and going with the named evil, at least it would set us on the right track tomorrow in terms of knowing what to look out for in the messages.
     
  19. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Haha, whoops!

    So I'm probably tinker then.

    Might be worth killing me off so you can concentrate on wolves tomorrow onwards.
     
  20. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    What a martyr!
     
  21. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Well things we know

    1. I am 99% good bar some bizarre role
    2. We have a seer and a wolf with two distinct writing styles. This will be a help in coming days.

    Things I think
    1. We have 3 Wolves.
    2. I think we killed the Traitor or a non wolf evil

    What I think we will inevitably do if team good is sensible:
    1. Lynch Harrow (sorry harrow) I have a gut feeling the second message is the wolf but youve been named good and evil and that makes more sense than silly guesswork theories today.
    It will also point out to us who the likely seer/wolf are in messages going forward.
    There is also a chance he is actually evil. We really have no choice and anyone calling it otherwise is probs evil.
     
  22. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    I think she is new to this and just adding a bit of colour.
     
  23. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I haven't been named evil at all. I've been named good and that's it. Unless I'm misunderstanding you. It's CB being named evil in the second message.
     
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  24. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    If there is a weird role where you can be found Good by the seer and you're actually Evil, and no one has been told about it, then that's game breaking. I think we have to work on the assumption that Opti wants a fair game and you're confirmed Good.

    Also, as per my message earlier today, I think Opti would have created 4 wolves, as a standard ratio of wolves to villagers. So I think Otter was a wolf (which would also fit with his gameplay style).
     
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  25. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    True.

    But she also read through Day 1 and got a flavour. Her post was quite bizarre even for a new player - and was followed almost immediately by todays 1st message - and then not really heard from since.

    Whilst I’m in agreement with the theories of what to do this evening, I’m still intrigued a little by the above. Like I was yesterday by BRLR quoting me almost word-for-word and never explaining why.

    Where is BRLR by the way - he was throwing around a few accusations yesterday and is missing in action today?

    There seems a fair few inactive/quiet players today!
     
  26. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    This is not true.
     
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  27. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Sorry guys Ive misread things as Ive been catching up and skim reading saw Harrows name in that sentence.
     
  28. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Based on the messages, it's a choice between CB/Harrow today although I agree that Skyla's post seemed a bit strange.

    Slow start to this game.
     
  29. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    In that case. We dont know who the Seer and the Wolf are message wise.
    We probably have to kill the named Evil. That still then gives us info on who the messages are likely from going forward tomorrow
     
  30. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Im dead against killing a player for a bizarre post.
    I made that mistake as a villager in my first game.
     
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  31. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Sorry, I agree, I don't think my previous message was clear. Skyla's post was a bit odd but not enough to waste a vote on at this point.
     
  32. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I’m not suggesting lynching Skyla. I’m just pointing out it was a strange post in both its nature and timing and I don’t think it can be entirely explained by just being a new player just yet. I am leaning towards going for the named evil today however - unless something compelling comes up.
     
  33. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    I think the second message is the wolf's message, it doesn't make sense for the seer to view CB when we were already discussing people related to Otter.
     
  34. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Twenty or so villagers, some of whom are mad.
    Two unknowns have today been named, Harrow good and CB bad.
    Who will we pick, I am not sure, but what I know is thus,
    This rhyming verse says nothing, but makes me super sus.

    I'm almost certainly going to vote for CB, unless he changes my mind.

    Partly due to a lack of an alternative wandwagon to hop onto. Mostly because the probably evil voices told me to do it.
     
  35. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Like I said, I'm good, could be the tinker though.

    Personally I'd vote me off if I was on your end.
     
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