Any Cause For Positivity?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Hogg-DEENEY!!!, Mar 12, 2023.

  1. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    It's all doom and gloom here understandably, but come on people, let's have a bit of cheer! Let's hear what you think we have to look forward to as a football club!

    For one, I think Asprilla will be mint, clearly he won't be here forever, but I reckon we get one season out of him where he lights up the division
     
  2. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    We have Manga and Co …. We will have another new manager in the summer - who, with blind hope, I assume will be a Manga appointment and he will get the season at least. We will see the back of a number of players who don’t want to be here. And my god next season we will see a new, committed, motivated team in the pitch ….. even if it is less talented ….. oh and we will have some new investment, maybe new owners in an Elton John lead consortium !!
    I am not sure I believe any of the above but trying to be positive !!
     
  3. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    We should get a good deal for JP in the summer to hopefully help any rebuild under Ubenga. Morris will get better and Adeyemo. Porteous will be a good signing. Asprilla is the next big talent though fingers crossed.
     
  4. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Clocks go forward soon, weather should get warmer.
     
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  5. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    It does all seem a bit gloomy. We do need to build a team around Asprilla, he’s a very exciting talent . I think he can be better than Joao Pedro . He needs to work on his finishing ( which I suspect is more around composure than technique ) and bulk a bit but his decision making and ability to play that killer pass is better than Pedro’s.

    The question is can we get a team around him functioning so we can see the best if him?
     
  6. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Not overly convinced that Asprilla will be here next season and if he is, I’d imagine it’ll be a Udinese sell/loan thing pending the EFL’s conclusions.
     
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  7. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Things I am looking forward to:

    • Gino leaving
    • AFC Watford (not impossible)
    • Helena Costa as head coach
    • Deeney returning in a #2 role
    • Us getting bought by a decent owner(s), who put the club and the fans' first before any other selfish desires
    • Our club identity back
    • No more debt
    • Becoming a stable PL side one day, even if we doss around midtable with the occasional flirt with Europe.
    • Emma Saunders back as the SA. :)
     
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  8. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    I highly doubt any club is getting their identity back.

    Even the "successful" minnows like Brentford, Brighton and West Ham have sold their souls. Give me Boleyn and Griffin Park any day.

    At least, thank god, we still have our stadium.
     
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  9. Watfordfanfromharrow

    Watfordfanfromharrow Academy Graduate

    here’s some stuff for the credit column:

    - We have a manger that knows the division well and has been promoted before.

    - The Championship is inherently crazy. Anyone can beat anyone and 2/3 wins gets you right back in the playoff picture. We’re not out of it yet (even if way we play shows otherwise….)

    - even if Pedro and Sarr go (they will…), we have a core of a very good young team: Ngakia, Ferreira, Porteous, Kone, Asprilla, and even TBD if he’s ever fit. Toure, Baah and Hungbo will only get better too.
     
  10. reids

    reids First Team

    Whilst he's undoubtedly been very bright and is for sure a talent, I'm not convinced that what he's done so far compared to what we'd ask in a fee would match up. I reckon with JP likely off in the summer, Asprilla will be a key player for us next season - if he starts banging in the goals and getting the assists next season, then the vultures will start circling.
     
  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Needs a summer in the gym before I think your final point becomes realistic.
     
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  12. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    We royally ****ed up during the pandemic break, but if there's one good thing that happened during that time, it's Joao Pedro bulking up, he really looked much more ready for senior English football than before that break
     
  13. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    See above
     
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  14. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    The clear out in the summer hopefully
    Manga
    Asprilla and I the look of Kone as well
    No more Bayat
     
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  15. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    Depends on the financial situation of course but I don't think clubs will look at Pedro and think he's worth the money we will be asking for - other than that, honestly no.
     
  16. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    This is all unfounded, but I feel lies within the realms of possibility.

    A summer clear-out
    Manga is given complete control of all key footballing decisions.
    All player trading fitting in with the needs of the head coach. I don't care who the head coach is, as long as the thought process is aligned from the top to the playing field.
    New investment and SEJ getting involved.

    Now here are a couple of unlikely things, but still might happen.
    Gino speaks.
    Retaining Pedro and Louza, then building a squad around these two.
     
  17. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    "We can still catch Brentford".
    Can't see any reason for positivity, sorry.
    I think the champ is a really exciting league to be in but don't think we have great prospects in it given the current squad and finances.
    Manga is a positive, but I assume he joined expecting us to be involved in a promotion battle and/or new funds for him to invest. I don't think he will get either and doubt he will be here in 12 months given that, and the internal politics he will face.
    Still, 150 years ago we didn't even have a team to support.
     
  18. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

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  19. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

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  20. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    Just ridiculous, legs gone and injury prone......what justification could there be for a contract extension?
     
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  21. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Good news and another reason for positivity.
     
  22. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Clevs!!! Legend!!!!!!!!
     
  23. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Christ alive when will we ******* learn??
     
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  24. Sting

    Sting Squad Player

    Not for anyone else but today I am 3 squared times 2 cubed - and getting Chinese for dinner
     
  25. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Bayo coming back and scoring 20.
     
  26. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I wouldnt say no to a player coach deal for a year then just coaching after that, otherwise nah.
     
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  27. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    Deeney and Cleverley dream management team? Can't do worse than the last 10 or so managers.
     
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  28. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    The multi storey car park behind the rookery is very handy
     
  29. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I'd still take him over Davis right now. He can at least "move".
     
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  30. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    What a joke. They never learn. Get this parasite out of the club.
     
  31. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

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  32. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    He gave someone the shoulder in the Preston game and sent them flying, maybe he's been taking it out on the gym since Bilic dropped him?
     
  33. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Keep looking, Skyla!
     
  34. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    He’s been banging lines with some of the fans I reckon.
     
  35. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Causes for positivity;

    -A season in which we didn't get relegated
    -We have bought some central defenders (at last)
    -Our pitch is lovely
    -I like the murals
    -We only had 3 managers so a relatively stable year
     

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