I,i,i,i,fwah, Fwah, Fwah It’s The Tories

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Who do you want as the next Tory party Leader

  1. Rishi Sunak

    7 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Lizz Truss

    4 vote(s)
    36.4%
  1. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Ed Milliband looks weird all the time these days. The Tories aren't completely sunk as long as he keeps popping up on the telly
     
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  2. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    The Tory party has it's fair share of weird looking folk.....
     
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  3. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Nobody's going to argue with that!
     
  4. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I am. Should of written “its”.
     
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  5. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    It's true :(
     
  6. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    "Should have."
     
  7. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Whoosh?
     
  8. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    :D
     
  9. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

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  10. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

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  11. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  12. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  13. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  14. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  15. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Teachers vote to strike.

    It's almost as if the Government can't run anything.

    What a shame schools aren't private businesses with non-unionised staff. All this nasty strike business would just go away.
     
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  16. reids

    reids First Team

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    Wonder whether this includes Dunkirk videos...
     
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  17. Exclusive!

    Leaked synopsis of Johnson's forthcoming autobiography!



    Born into entitled disfunctional family.

    Went to posh school to reinforce entitlement. Went to Oxford (ditto) got rubbish degree. Burnt fivers in front of tramps. Daddy got me job at paper in Brussels. Told thousands of lies. Got married. Became MP. Had affair. Told lies. Got sacked. Got mistress up duff. Persuaded abortion. Got newspaper column. Told thousands of lies. Had affair. Had kid. Arranged super injunction. Became mayor. Lied a bit. Had affair/technology lessons. Became MP (lied that would stand down as mayor). Decided route to PM would be to back stupid idea of leaving EU (not expecting Leave to win). Lied a lot. Became Foreign Sec. Went to Bunga Bunga parties with KGB spy. Sabotaged T May. Finally got prize. Was really rubbish at it. Lied to Queen. Delivered appalling brexit deal. Lied. Let thousands die. Elicited public sympathy by pretending to have nearly died. Partied while country grieved. Lied to parliament. Married ghastly spouse, had sprog. Took money from sponsors to turn No 11 into Turkish Brothel at spouse's instruction. Took money from sponsors for holidays. Tried to change rules for grifting acolyte. Appointed sex pest acolyte to whips office. Finally got heave-ho from Tory MPs. Thought about coming back after Truss debacle. Couldn't get MP support. Went off to make money from speeches while still sponging off benefactors. Thinking about another triumphant return after disastrous May elections.

    Ends.
     
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  18. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Wait, he did? If so I completely missed that.
     
  19. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Not a story much of the media wants to go big on.

    I’m going to drop a name here and I’m asking the question would it be a bigger deal if it had been this chap and not Zahawi?

    Jeremy Corbyn.
     
  20. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    The Zahawi story is absolutely extraordinary. Any regular citizen would be facing serious charges.

    Meanwhile, Javid saying the quiet bit out loud now that they have driven the NHS to the brink and feel the time is right to offer the alternative they planned all along. Pay to visit A&E or your GP.

    The bootlickers will lap this up as a CoMmoN SeNsE response to a difficult challenge, blah-blah-blah, forgetting that we already pay for the NHS through taxation and National Insurance.

    Just another big stride on the journey to a ruinous private health insurance system and terrible health outlooks for anyone who can't pay.

    Staggering that this stuff gets any traction but it does. Great Torying, guys.
     
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  21. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    2 years and 3 days to go..........(I don't suppose they will be rushing to give up their ministerial salaries!)
     
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  22. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    But that’s a maximum, almost certainly will be less than that.
     
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  23. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Why not just get rid of all taxation, absolutely all of it, and charge for everything. It is, after all, the ideology they spout.

    If you drive on a road, you get charged for what you use. If you want a pavement repaired, the local people have to club together to repair it, or not if they don't think it's desirable or can't afford it. If you send a child to school, pay. Good schools can charge a lot, less good ones can charge less. If you go to hospital, pay for the appointment, the x-ray, the treatment, the medicine. If you want your bins collected, pay.

    If we're going to bow down to the private sector, to the profit motive, to personal responsibility and luck, then let's remove the gold-plated security and incentive of having the public purse to fall back on.

    But let everyone keep all of their money. Do away with the farce of different taxation rules for different people depending on status and wealth. Let the public decide what they want to pay for or not. And, of course, in desperate times the market will set prices but that'll just be the luck of the draw.

    One upside would be the Govt would have nothing to chuck at the private sector. Lobbying would be dead within a year or two because there'd be no money to lobby for, no subsidies, no favours, no back-handers.

    And we would then see how popular their ideology is.
     
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  24. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    HMRC rarely, if ever, prosecutes a person who cooperates with a tax enquiry and pays what they owe plus any fines due. And, in fact, somebody well known is more likely to face 'serious charges' than a 'regular citizen' because of the PR benefits to HMRC that a high profile tax evasion case tends to generate. But the inland revenue also usually takes a fairly dim view of people in positions of trust or power who should be expected to know not to attempt to fiddle their tax returns, so as a former Chancellor of the Exchequer (albeit briefly) it is a little surprising that Zahawi isn't deeper in the brown stuff than he is.
     
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  25. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Georgist theory... It was very, very popular with the the post-Soviet democracies. ISTR that the Baltic states rowed back on full implementation as it would harm EU alignment...
     
  26. Great explanation of Zahawi's shenanigans here: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-on-me-now-hes-handed-over-millions-qjpqrhtnj
     
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  27. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    C&P of text for research purposes.

     
  28. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

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  30. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    And De Pfeffel is in Ukraine...
     
  31. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Is Sunak old enough to know about the seat belt rule ? Raab says he is a human being. Is he ? Are any of them ?

    Stuck in their world of privilege and wealth with no connection to the man and woman in the street. Time for a revolution. The status quo will not change while these planks make all the rules and the masses just stand meekly taking it all.
     
  32. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Still time for a drone to land on his head and take him out.
     
  33. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Correct. But the opposition are exactly the same. Meet the new boss same as the old .....
     
  34. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Oh mate. That’s just the first mistruth the Tory bootlickers tell themselves. You’re better than that.
     
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  35. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Zahawi libel lawyers have been making groundless threats all over the place apparently. Has given people the willies. The twitter summary by Dan Neidle is worth a read - got plenty of threats while he was doing his investigation.
     
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