Voip Phones Replacing Copper Lines And Extensions In The Home

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  1. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    So our house was rewired with telephone points in most rooms, so that we could have landline phones around the house. While we rarely get landline calls, the ones we do are from elderly parents so we still need the option. Now it looks like the wiring will be redundant as our provider says that they are replacing the copper land line with a VOIP phone using fibre internet. Which means we can plug one landline handset into the router. This is quite inconvenient as the router is not where we want the landline handset to be.

    Is there anyway we can use our existing hard wired phone points or the adjacent Cat 5 points to get the handset where we want it?

    I don’t suppose anyone has any clever ideas on how we could repurpose the copper wired phone points around the house. Or are they now completely redundant?
     
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  2. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Do you have different lines from each phone point or the same main one spurred off to different rooms?

    Assuming it’s the latter, surely you just need something like this?

    https://shop.bt.com/products/bt-advanced-phone---four-handsets-090641-D9R7.html

    Plug the main handset into your router and then you can place the other handsets anywhere else in the house you please as long as there’s a electric plug socket. No need for the hard wired phone points.
     
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  3. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I presume this is Virgin as I got the same letter? For multiple phone points they will need to visit you to do the work for you.
    Otherwise what UEA says is one option. Even better, give your mobile number to the elderly parents instead.
     
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  4. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

  5. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Yes Uea is correct you just need your router plugged into the master socket (or an extension of) then you have a wire less phone coming off the router with as many wireless extensions around the house which although will need to be kept charged could be on your person if you wanted, therefore never missing a call!
     
  6. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Depends on the plan they have. Mrs Keighley’s parents are with Virgin and get free calls to landlines, but not to mobiles.
     
  7. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    It's not an issue. you can get VOIP phones that connect to the router by wifi and your exisitng telephone number should be ported to this system. As long as you have a power socket for the phone, charger or phone base station, location is not an issue.

    We've just changed all at our office handsets to Zoom phones. Which means we have a mix of desk phones and mobiles running aps. It means you can divert land line calls to your mobile and answer them even when you're not at home.

    Copper wires are pretty much dead unless you're in an area that Openreach and Virgin refuse to cable.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2022
  8. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    I am in an area where we are only on copper and fibre has not reached. Which also means mobile coverage can be bad. I do not want to be forced onto an IP phone.
    Great idea for offices but not for all homes. I know there are many people who only use their mobiles and have never had a landline in their house, but there are also many people who don't use mobiles.
    People should be offered / encouraged to switch but not forced.
     
  9. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    A VOIP phone can be to all intents and purposes (certainly to the user) idential to a land line phone.
    For example:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amplicomms-BigTel-1500-Cordless-Phone/dp/B09SZGBBZR/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=9R3OJC0X9N6W&keywords=voip&qid=1660218362&sprefix=,aps,1011&sr=8-2-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzSUY0VktGM0NBTzRSJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjkxMDQ2Q0M5NzJQWkEyUEEzJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MTk4OTUyRUQ0VklJQThGUk5CJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

    The only difference is the call is routed to the phone over the internet as digital data rather than a spearate copper connection. That data could even be carried over the same copper connection that the landline phone was connected to, fibre, satelite link, radio or wifi or a mix or all or some of these.


    Most home internet connections (non cable) come through the copper phone line. You have a filter at the master socket which splits the into Telephone and internet. With VOIP you just don't use the telephone socket and you connect the phone or base station to the internet router either by network cable or wirelessly. It's just a minor cabling difference which offers as good if not better service and certainly more flexibility.

    Data requirements are small. We can run 4 phones at the same time on a 5Mb/s line whilst still having OK internet access for 4 computers.
     
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  10. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    Thank you for the information, its good to know there are options that essentially don't change way you can use the phone.

    I still like to have an old fashioned copper connection, as it will still work in a power cut or internet outage.
     
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  11. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Power cut will bugger you tho as both router and phone base station will need it. Mind you mobile as a back up will solve that issue and it can even accept calls to the landline number if the VOIP provider sets it up for you and you've got mobile signal.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2022
  12. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    It’s as bad as you fear, they use these.

    That’s what it’s like for some members of a generation that every time a Prime Minister goes, tell you the story about the shock when Stanley Baldwin resigned!
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