Summerwolf - Chapter 2 'monsters And Men'

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Optimistichornet, Jun 23, 2022.

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Who should be lynched?

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  1. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I have and am happy to do so, it'll change daily so get used to it, (until you kill me).
     
  2. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Have seen message styles easily replicated in the past games so will wait for the second message before making a call.
     
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  3. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Not at all. The logic was good, hence why it was easy for the wolfies to jump on it. But it isn't me and I welcome the seer to view me (if that first message isn't the seer).
     
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  4. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Hunters attack in parties, Wolves in packs, Which offering would become the tribal feast? All burnt and black.
    Good people stick together, evil people play by ear, for the outcome to be balanced should it be the prey the godly will fear?
    Good and evil both have teeth - gnashing and jaw - teeth to chew the flesh, pulling the skin and may it tore.
    Evil is sin Good is faith - which side are we all on, and can we really truly be safe...
     
  5. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    You’re meant to message your wolf message to Opti, not the group.
     
  6. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I am not suggesting I am either... just an observation of how the two sides can play out. ;)
     
  7. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Oh dear.
     
  8. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    2nd message

    Good afternoon, my fellow crew members.
    We have struck Gold! After much deliberation on viewing Harrow Orn, I decided to go for my gut and viewed Cassetti's Beard due to some strange behaviour. He is EVIL.

    Yesterday I viewed Cthulhu and took some stick but there really wasn't much to go on yesterday. If you look at my message from yesterday you will see I said "Players will reveal themselves more moving forward which will allow more strategic viewings", that's what I've done today rather than the obvious viewing and luckily hit on an Evil.

    Also to expand on that, I didn't think Harrow was Evil as I think we have an intelligent wolf who wouldn't play a double bluff and try to clear an Evil at this stage. I think the Wolf saw the focus on Otter's comments and wanted to goad me into viewing Harrow. It would have likely said Harrow good and we'd be in the same boat as yesterday. Lynch Cassetti today and we learn SO much more. We could have two Evil's down in two days, don't miss this chance.

    Takk skal du ha.
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    What do you mean?

    You should 100% be insisting you’re good. That’s how the game is played.
     
  10. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    OK even I am confused now.
     
  11. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Lots to ponder
     
  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Takk skal du ha is ‘Thank You’ in Norwegian.
     
  13. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    If that second message is a seer then I'm baffled as to why they've not viewed me.
     
  14. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Right. Confused.com.
     
  15. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Second message does seem very Wolfy to me
     
  16. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Both messagers are leaving a trail in their messages. No real clue as to which is more likely to be from which.

    Suggests that the Alpha from yesterday is still alive, or the Beta has replicated them well enough, whichever of these two is which.
     
  17. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Unless I have missed something, has anyone seen or commented on anything CB has said or done that is strange behavior ? Or enough for CB to be viewed ?
     
  18. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Waste of a view? If they both say good, what more does it tell us. Good for you maybe, but not great for team good.
     
  19. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Two clear sets of messages at least. But for the second day in a row, the second one has confused me.
     
  20. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Morning all. Just catching up.

    To recap the obvious.

    Message 1 Day 1 and Message 1 Day 2 are from the same person, probably the seer.

    If this is the case then it may be worthwhile to analyse the clue that exists at the end of either message...

    Day 1

    "I have t' see me face on th' pitch, Wilson"

    Day 2

    "I were bein' born in Naples, but when I were bein' 12 me father moved t' Turin t' work in th' Fiat factory, Wilson"
     
  21. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Hmm, not sure. I think either way we've got to lynch one of the two named people. Might kill a Good but that should at least help give us more to go off tomorrow than killing someone not named.
     
  22. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Suspiciously non-descript in messages and asking questions which I think everyone thinks they know the answer to?
     
  23. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Does anyone have a Sannino-based signature that I can't see on my phone? Nobody has his pic, nor name. Only player name with any overlap is incidentally Cassetti.
     
  24. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    The Seer would not have viewed CB after the night kill and yesterdays action. Looks like Harrow might indeed be OK and Otters messages yesterday were just normal?
     
  25. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Could be, if he was the traitor he could have played a good ploy by trying to look as though he is agreeing with two evil players. Or it could be the other route that he was trying to get two evil players attention.
     
  26. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team


    Connections between the 2 clues

    1- Sannino. Confirmed as it is his quote and his childhood that has been described.

    2- Wilson - Possible reference to Castaway bearing in mind the dramatic theme of the game?
     
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  27. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Tend to agree with this. If the Seer knew that the Wolf was trying to clear Harrow in the first message, then surely they'd view him, given the chat this morning, to confirm that he was Evil?
     
  28. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    I was thinking it might be an effort to implicate Heidar. Just seems a random flourish to end the post though.
     
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  29. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Basically, I don't know anything at the moment other than:

    - There is a guardian
    - There are at least two wolves still active, possibly three (depending on whether Otter was a wolf or the traitor, still bugged by the fact he tasted different to how the wolf expected)
    - Ctulhu is good (unless there is some unspecified role that would mean he is evil but shows up as good)

    @Optimistichornet - are you able to confirm what the rules are about wolves killing other wolves in this game?
     
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  30. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    For what it's worth you being aggressive (in your views) has given me a good vibe from you. Happy to stick out and throw accusations, which evil don't tend to do.
     
  31. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    To be honest, without knowing what roles are in the game and what the rules are, it makes it impossible for team good to deduce anything at this stage. The game is pot luck rather than any kind of skill/logic
     
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  32. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Why the first message could be from the seer and second message from the wolf:
    Happy being killed. Happy came online almost immediately around the time of the first message. If the first kill was from the alpha, then they would have known the first message was from a seer and tried to kill someone they thought sent the message. If the first kill wasn't from the alpha, then it could have been an incorrect guess from a confused wolf.

    Why the first message could be from the wolf and the second message from the seer:
    Otter (confirmed evil) hinted that the second message was from the wolf. He might have been trying to confuse the village (if he was a traitor). Alternatively, he might have been trying to hide from the seer (more likely if he was a wolf), which could point towards the first message being from the seer. If he was the traitor, then he would have to have seen something from a wolf that made him push for message 2 being from the wolf (if it was in fact from the seer).

    I'm on the fence at the moment.
     
  33. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Agree. Wolf on wolf action is the basis for my current hypothesis. Also the more I hypothesize, the more I seem to move up Cthulhu's Sus list!
     
  34. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Looking online, it looks like the standard ratio is an evil every 4 villagers. That suggests we started the game with 4 wolves and a traitor.

    Given there were 3 kills yesterday, I think Otter was a wolf who got taken out before his kill.
     
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  35. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Pretty sure we are looking at 3 Wolves remaining and the taste of Otters heart was because he was evil
    Ctulhu is good
    Cassetti's beard will claim to be the tinker

    Unless someone unearths something spectacular or someone confesses to something it's going to be down to gut feel

    I might go and potter for a while
     
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