Goodbye

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Hornpete, Apr 10, 2022.

  1. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    What’s his podcast called?
     
  2. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I understand that Duxbury is leaving at the end of this season.
     
  3. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    You joke but he has a big SM following.
     
  4. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Interesting. In a completely non sarcastic way, it seems odd that an employee of another club would have that much insider knowledge of the employment situation of our Chief Executive, but stranger things happen at sea.
     
  5. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Sado Masochist?
    I could see how that could be linked to following Watford!
     
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  6. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I too have heard this.
     
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  7. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Capoue & Villareal knocked out Bayern away from home tonight, to progress to the champs league SF.
     
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  8. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    'Etienne Capoue's Villarreal'
     
  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Sharp contrast between his post WFC career and that of Doucoure!
     
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  10. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    And the biggest irony is that Capoue probably doesn't even care.
     
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  11. westbridgfordhornet

    westbridgfordhornet First Year Pro

    Etienne Capoue's AND Pervis Estupinan's Villarreal please! Just goes to show.
     
  12. Eddie_Hitler

    Eddie_Hitler Academy Graduate

    King is a waste of space. His goal scoring record over the last few seasons worse than Gray’s. Get rid
     
  13. HeiaWatford

    HeiaWatford Reservist

    Personally I was initially pleased when we signed him and I thought he showed up as quite a decent looking forward, but he has definitely gone downhill fast. He's not the only one though.
     
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  14. NemoNemo

    NemoNemo Reservist

    Not isolating King, our whole forward line have taken to playing their own games and there is zero chemistry between them, hence the lack of goals. The whole team dynamic is shot at the moment and it’s only a matter of time until we are confirmed as relegated. Unfortunately like last time, I’m not confident about bouncing back straight away. Our best players will be sold this time round to balance the books and we will not spend a penny on transfers to fill the voids left. I still can’t believe that Gino has never paid a transfer fee for a player while we are a championship team. Not sure what Udinese players come our way, maybe a few familiar faces will return?
     
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  15. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Is Forestieri still an Udinese player? On that topic, Vydra is a free agent too...
     
  16. Eddie_Hitler

    Eddie_Hitler Academy Graduate

    Doubt Vydra would come back as should he propel us to the back EPL Pozzo will just shaft him and send him back to the EFL like he did the last time. That said, I’d welcome him back as King is turd
     
  17. Vydra's numbers have been awful for years, what makes you think he still has it?
     
  18. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Ucko on Twitter says Duxbury told the committee that he wants Kucka, Cleverley and Gosling in the squad next season.

    Laughable but he'll get his way because they're under contract and who the hell will want them? Just like Cathcart and Kabasele, they'll be here because we hand out idiotic contracts to average players.

    Also the decision should be down to the new head coach, but that's not the way the club works. The Stability are football people and clearly know how to build a squad.
     
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  19. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Or hasn't got a lot of choice as they are here contracted to stay and won't move on?

    Not so long ago Gosling wasn't even in this squad!
     
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  20. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Cleverley :mad:

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  21. Eddie_Hitler

    Eddie_Hitler Academy Graduate

    Granted it’s been a few years but I’d take Vydra over King all day long.
     
  22. Aren't we castigating Dux and Gino for taking punts?
     
  23. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  24. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    No, we’re castigating them for taking ‘punts from a ****’, as in the normally mentioned agent resulting us in having the 6th highest agent fees in the PL.
     
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  25. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I'd keep King for next season. Not sure if he'll want to stay though, he might think he can get a move to one of the promoted teams. Vydra on a free would be a no brainer.
     
  26. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Personally I'd feel a lot more comfortable doing something we have failed to do for a decade and bring in a competent goalscoring centre forward. As you say, there are questions over King's desire and motivation in the Champ, however misguided that may be, and he's fundamentally a very poor finisher for a striker to boot. If we need him to capitalise on chances, yesterday was the perfect demonstration of why we can't rely on him doing so.

    Look at this season: Solanke has 24 goals so far and he's nowhere even near the division's top scorer. I have bleated on about this already, but we won't survive relying on one magic button of a winger and a single player reaching double figures this time around; especially when the winger won't be around.

    I hope whoever takes over is thinking similarly, and that for once in their (recent) lives the Stability make the right decision in supporting them.
     
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  27. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    Worth remembering that throughout the whole Pozzo reign, the best centre forward during that/this time was the one who was already at the club, regardless of how badly he declined at the end. World class scouting network.
     
  28. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    And never replaced.

    I guess they hoped Success and Gray would be the next Deeney....
     
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  29. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Some players are not fully appreciated until they are not there .
     
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  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Maybe more so for his leadership at vital moments...

    Until the end of the 2019/19 season anyway.

    Then injuries and COVID (tbf it did sound like Deeney was actually quite ill with it) set in.

     
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  31. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    I just think he was an underrated out ball player . Even if this means a hoofed ball forward that he could fight for and get the team up the pitch.
     
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  32. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Oh yes - we have no physical presence up front so when Foster lumps the ball up it's easy for the opposition defence.

    Sarr just falls over if touched, Dennis battles but loses the ball and Pedro is too lightweight even if he does try his best.

    At Villa we scored a good goal with Sarr crossing and Dennis heading home but we rarely have seen that.
     
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  33. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Sometimes it's about partnerships and Deeney was happy to do the donkey work so the flair players could do their thing . We have too many flair players IMO
     
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  34. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    We have a lot of donkeys as well.
     
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  35. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    I think my point was that we don't have the right balance of players in the squad .
    Our forwards are mostly "touch" players . We don't have anyone who will fight so the
    "touch" players can play .
    However you are absolutely correct . The squad needs major surgery .
     

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