Brentford 2-1 Watford Fc - 10/12/2021

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by SkylaRose, Dec 7, 2021.

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What's the score?

  1. Brentford Battering

    7 vote(s)
    8.5%
  2. Slim Defeat

    13 vote(s)
    15.9%
  3. An Entertaining Score Draw

    17 vote(s)
    20.7%
  4. A Nil Nil Snooze Fest

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  5. A Sweaky Bum Watford Win

    31 vote(s)
    37.8%
  6. Hornests Sting Bees Rumble

    12 vote(s)
    14.6%
  1. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Yeah did okay but then his idiotic moment arrived. Never been a worse player in this league.
     
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  2. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    He didn’t sit on it tbf he brought on Pedro to give us attacking impetus.

    However he kept on 0/10 performance Kucka and took off Clevs who was actually playing well.

    He got it wrong today.
     
  3. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    An utterly abysmal, shambolic performance from start to finish, with terrible marks for pretty much every individual player, but surprisingly the worst rating of all for Papa Clau. It's hard to believe how bad a coaching performance that was; not that it excuses the disgraceful attempts at play those on theb pitch offered.

    My default was that I believed we would be able to do enough, with January reinforcements, to stay up. After seeing that, I'm honestly not sure where we go from here - we did the unthinkable and lost to this cobbled together group of Championship players. I think at this point I'm going to have to change my mindset to 'consigned to relegation', which is incredibly fuccking depressing. What a load of shyte.
     
  4. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    This is it isn't it?
    The whole of the fanbase is saying " stay away and don't tackle" so he dives in.
    Tactical acumen of a pencil.
     
  5. Lack of self belief and confidence quickly became panic

    I maintain on paper this side had 40 points in it (mainly because our forward line has goals) but tonight I saw a relegated side

    Pointless getting emotional about it, it is what it is
     
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  6. USAHornet

    USAHornet Academy Graduate

    Watford gonna Watford.

    Terrible second half, all wrong from Ranieri, no game management toward the end, and could see that result from a mile away.

    Pozzo not going to invest in defenders until January, but think we'll be bottom by then, if this keeps up.
     
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  7. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Why isn't Louza on the ticket?

    Literally the balancer of the midfield and we drop him for no reason.

    Weird - and thoroughly deserved after a hopeless display.
     
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  8. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    I mean we were 2nd best first half, changed nothing, then made subs that made us worse each time. Ranieri has so much experience and does some great stuff but how has he got that so badly wrong tonight.
     
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  9. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Sickening. Losing to a team in their cup final.

    We were awful from the off. The only plus is that we scored at all.

    We offered nothing. We were under the cosh throughout.

    Our shape was wrong. Kucka and WTE need to be never in the matchday squad, let alone in the starting line up.

    I've loved Claudio since he came here, but he got nothing right today. The starting line up and subs were all appalling. Sema never needs to come on.

    Just a sickening blow to our chances of taking some winnable points after wasting far better performances in pride matches against Chelsea and city. Today was all round a bad day at the office for everyone except from Sissolo, Dennis and Kiko.
     
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  10. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Just didn’t work from the start. The line up was wrong, we never had any real control of the middle of the pitch and we were second to most balls. Brentford were equally **** though and there was as much argument for us leading at half time as if they had been. What happened after half time was a joke though. Much the same for the first 15 mins but then taking off Cleverley (who had his worst game in ages) for Pedro was shown to be the wrong sub within a few minutes as Brentford started to boss it. Even then they weren’t that good, but we had no presence outside our own box and made it easy for them.

    Kucka was behind the play all night, the Ngakia experiment was a failure and Uncle Claudio made his first real errors. I’ve no idea what our pass completion rate was but it felt like it was catastrophically low.

    Oh and Troost gonna Troost.
     
  11. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I blame Ranieri for the poor subs, if Clevs is coming off put Louza on and dont ever play Sema unless it is an emergency. As for the WTF tackle, yeah it wasnt as if anybody here was really surprised is it. Very disappointed as up until the substitutions they didnt really have a sniff.
     
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  12. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Why would anyone laugh?

    Ranieri must go. Now.
     
  13. Grover

    Grover First Year Pro

    We get the ball back with the goalkeeper, relive the pressure by Bachmann smashing it all the way back to their goal keeper and invite them on again! Struggling to win the ball in the air? Smash every clearance up in the air and watch it come back at us again! Midfield? Why bother just smash it upfield! Such an annoying performance with little attempt to play football for large portions of the game, a far cry from the entertaining stuff against Man Utd and Chelsea
     
  14. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Don't agree about shambolic and abysmal, nor that every player was terrible. Kiko for a start off, had an excellent game in the main. Dennis too, although he was much, much quieter in the second half.

    I really thought we were going to make it through for a 0-1 win and get that first clean sheet. Once we conceded one though, it always looked like they'd score again and they had next to no cutting edge whatsoever.
     
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  15. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    That was very poor.

    Silly tackle by WTE and we invited pressure onto ourselves .

    Agree subs were bad.
     
  16. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Important thing to note is some of our dud idiots think Kucka is miles above Hughes.
     
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  17. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Can’t even beat Brentford, when half their team are injured and we have a lead with 7 mins to go. Relegate us now.
     
  18. Mazzereth

    Mazzereth Academy Graduate

  19. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    One of the worst performances with the ball I can remember for a long time.

    All the poise and composure of Peter Sutcliffe.

    Every single one of them tonight a total disgrace (with exception maybe of King who worked his nuts off).

    I hope Troost TheMong steps on a plug. Useless sh*tc**t.
     
  20. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Nice one.
     
  21. HampshireHorn84

    HampshireHorn84 Academy Graduate

    Honestly how he wasn't hooked at HT. What did Ranieri think he was actually contributing to the game, he is a final sub at best, no way on earth should he be anchoring our midfield.
     
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  22. Eddie_Hitler

    Eddie_Hitler Academy Graduate

    Unfortunately Cleverley was gassed on 60 mins and we don’t have a like for like replacement. We missed someone like Will Hughes tonight
     
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  23. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    Wow, talk about self destruct. We were firmly in control of that for the most part, Brentford are nothing more than a Championship side having their time in the sun and to come away with 0 points is a shocking result. They are Sheff Utd reincarnated.

    We have a number of very good players but it is counter balanced with a number of players you wouldn't want in your sunday league team. Kucha looks like an over 40s vet who thinks he's still got it. He was absolutely woeful, gave the ball away every time and played a huge part in our loss. He gave the ball away in the danger zone and didn't even bother trying to retrieve it. It was criminal to take Clevs off instead of him. Ngakia looks shell shocked tonight, good player on his day but can't handle pressure. Bachmann again, shocking player - how many times did he kick the ball into touch or straight through to the opposition goalie? I actually thought that was WTE best performance this season, he dealt with almost everything reasonably well but then he just can't help himself can he? Brains of a rocking horse. You are never going to win a game of football at this level with players like him. It's unfortunate we have 5 just like him in our starting line up. We got a new technical director in who is no different to Giraldi, scattergun approach which has left us woefully inept at the back yet again.
     
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  24. NemoNemo

    NemoNemo Reservist

    This game has proved my belief in the team so wrong. I really believed we would get a result from this and build on it to stay up. It couldn't be further from this. What an absolute **** show from start to finish. I mean dropping Louza for Kucka... WTAF. Kucka is a terrible player and I lost count of the needless misplaced passes and times that Brentford just bypassed him with ease. Ranieri has to take a lot of the blame here but tonight he looked down and out. I can really see he has lost belief in the team now... he was even gobbling off at the subs for lazing about. The club right now is a festering stinkhole and i can't see how it's going to get better
     
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  25. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Sickening defeat.

    Subs made us worse.

    Troost-Ekong needs to be sent out on loan. I said after Leicester he'd probably lost all his confidence and today he's cost us not only their equaliser (5 live said he switched off) but then gave away the most stupid penalty in the last minute.
     
  26. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    You were definitely in a minority on that based on the start of the season predictions thread. What's a decent forward line matter when our back 4 is 5hyt and we only have one good central midfielder?! It was always going to be an uphill struggle.

    We were our own worst enemies today though.
     
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  27. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Kucka and WTF are beyond awful.

    The tactics of sitting back sitting back just handed those *****s the advantage. They are a bang average side who we were quite comfortable against until Cleverley comes off. No Louza but Pedro. Ngakia gifts a corner away, Kucka gifts the ball away leads to the first and then does the second one as well. Twice managing to lose the ball with idiotic passes. Just slam it up the pitch you feckin *****. A point is better than nothing. And of course WTE who looks like a donkey on a hot tin roof gifts a needless penalty away.

    King is a better defender than WTF. And why no Louza. Has he a knock or something ? Kucka is at best an impact sub. He cannot play the full ninety. He was blowing out of his backside that second half. We have the players to score goals so we sat back and sat back. Dennis, King and Cucho were barely involved and King and Cucho as defenders. Get the second kill the game. Just handed the game on a plate to those turds. Hope they down the poxy farkers.

    Unless Claudio gets reinforcements in defence we won't be staying up. Sort it out Gino and Scott you clowns. Claudio should also have realized by now that the defence we have cannot hope to hold onto a lead when you have rubbish like WTF in it. The guy is barely a Championship player.
     
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  28. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    I don't think the problem really was the back four/five. The midfield was second best throughout the game. So much possession wasted. Brentford out-thought and out-fought them.
    Brentford completely deserved that win; the fact that the goals came late is irrelevant.
    That defeat concerns me greatly: Brentford are not a great team, but we looked poor.
     
  29. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Turds that will flush.
     
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  30. WatfordÉire

    WatfordÉire Squad Player

    There it is. Plain and simple. No more disguising it, looking the other way or pushing out the usual soundbites.

    We either invest in our defence in January or we're done. It's that simple. If Gino doesn't, we know that survival isn't that important to him.

    Ngakia is young and isn't a LB, but he had a mare.
    Cathcart was no more than solid in his prime, he's well past that now.
    Ekong, I won't even go there, just launch him into fcuking orbit and let's pretend he never existed.

    We were well below par all night, and started sitting deep after 60mins, not sure if that was intentional or subconscious. Couldn't keep hold of the ball at all.

    Clevs blowing out his arse after 50mins. Kucka looked like he hadn't played in a month and giving that ball away for their penalty was absolutely criminal after they'd equalised, just get rid of it.

    Don't understand why Clevs started tonight, JP or Louza would have given us more control in possession. Didn't understand the subs tonight. Didn't understand exposing two 30+ central midfielder when we even getting overrun with 3 in the middle!

    What a kick in the bollóx.
     
  31. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Or to summarise: Kučka.
     
  32. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    League One would be his level. Bloody awful. Beyond awful. Before those clappers start decrying the attack on one of our own GT would be tearing strips off him and Big John would have given him a knee to the balls. Utter clown along with OAP Kucka.

    Sort it out Gino you moron.
     
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  33. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Went as I feared…made some good money though. Troost-Ekong is hopelessly out of his depth. That was inexcusable.
     
  34. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    He needs to be dropped from a plane in the middle of the f**king ocean.
     
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  35. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    That’s a ridiculous statement, comparable to those who said that we wouldn’t be promoted when we lost to Luton.
     
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  36. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I love the way you swing from one opinion to the next season after season. Win = good. Lose = bad. And if anyone is the other verdict in the meantime I’ll block them. You are laughable.
     
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