Leeds United 1-0 Watford Fc - 02/10/2021

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by tonycotonstache, Sep 28, 2021.

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What's the score?

  1. Narrow brave defeat

    15 vote(s)
    17.0%
  2. No score draw

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  3. Score draw

    14 vote(s)
    15.9%
  4. Narrow away win

    14 vote(s)
    15.9%
  5. Smash 'em like the good old days

    6 vote(s)
    6.8%
  6. Going to get a proper tonking

    30 vote(s)
    34.1%
  7. Micah Hyde

    8 vote(s)
    9.1%
  1. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Has Watford even got a red-light district?
     
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  2. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    It really wouldn't be hard to find a more competent coach than Xisco. They don't have to be anything special, just someone who can organise a team! Yes the squad is poor but a decent coach can organise any team with enough hours.
     
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  3. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Amazing how people thought Kucka was an upgrade based on one match
     
  4. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    You could be right, but we've been extremely poor in 5 out of our 7 games so far, and it's been a relatively kind run of fixtures. Gino is not known for his patience.
     
  5. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    If that ends up being true than it’s even more evidence of Gino losing his balls. The writing is on the wall with this guy, he is unequivocally out of his depth and that won’t change. Delaying it is just utterly pointless, unless his sole aim is to dampen down the spikiness of Lineker’s tweet when we eventually do fire him.
     
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  6. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    The New Years 1-3 home defeat at home to Millwall when Vialli blamed the fans was an equivalent performance against a plucky but limited side.
     
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  7. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki Reservist

    October 2nd.
    The slide towards relegation begins in earnest.
    Once again, we need to beat the teams around us. We got away with a point last week against Newcastle when a trashing would have been a fair result.
    A similar game today it seems.
    Are we good enough to beat the teams the lower half? It seems that we are way off the pace.
     
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  8. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Foster tried hard? Not having that! Perhaps if he spent less time sorting his f**king YouTube channel he might put in some decent performances. How can you 'try hard' as a keeper?!

    Since he's come back in the side he's been at fault for all 3 goals! Didn't come for the ball at Norwich, butter fingers for the Newcastle goal and got nowhere near today's corner.

    The bloke was once a great keeper, he's now just a clown!
     
  9. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    It's really hard to defend Munoz right now. A good 45mins vs Villa and beating a very poor Norwich aside, we look destined to play against Deeeny next season. That was spineless, pathetic slow backwards football that I wouldn't even see Burnley do. Passing out from the back? WHY? So slow in possession, WTE had an awful game, nearly gave away at least two goals, nothing up front at all bar a nothing disallowed goal mid way through the second half. Such a cba attitude to the performance today and it's very, very hard to watch.

    God knows what the instructions were before the game, because i there was a game plan then it went straight out the window after the whistle blew. I'm glad we lost because we got exactly what we deserved from that game. Only people I feel sorry for are the fans' who now have to travel back and us who viewed or listened via radio or read via Shout Box. Pitiful performance, and we have turned in some pretty bad ones over the years but that has to be up there.

    Lost King, who was actually looking good to a knee injury, then we lost Serialtra as well! A double whammy do an already wafer thin squad. That means Pedro or Fletcher will have to start vs Liverpool at the Vic in two weeks time. It also means the return of Cathcart. Despite everything I have said so far, the most alarming thing for me personally, was that was our best side. Our best eleven who have nabbed four points from the previous two and we were totally out played by a side who had yet to win. AGAIN. Why do we do this? I think today showed the confidence the players have in Xisco because today they did not want
    to play for him at all.

    The only positives I can possibly get from today is other results weren't to bad. Southampton losing, Newcastle losing and Norwich and Burnley drawing -but if we cannot help ourselves when we have our best team out there against a side low on confidence and put in that sort of shocker - I really fear for next month. Liverpool next, can we possibly have a harder game? Yes, after that one - when Southampton come to Vic probably still winless and play us off the park.

    Xisco has clearly lost all faith in his abilities to motivate the side and that really showed today. Next taxi off the rank.

    Very upsetting the way we went about today. Oh, and one final thing, Leeds fans act like Apes.
     
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  10. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Unrealistic expectations combined with the bedwetters revelling again in having another opportunity to moan again. They must love us being promoted again, as there are more games for us to lose afterwards giving them another excuse to vent their spleen about something, however unrealistic it is. They must love us being back in the PL with a poor squad - rolling around like pigs in sh1t.
     
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  11. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    A throughly depressing afternoon on a throughly depressing October’s day.

    Here’s what really gets me.

    We all knew this season was going to be tough. Only to be expected as a newly promoted club back in the big time after the once in a lifetime situation of covid.

    Nobody expected much, nobody spoke of us doing what newly promoted Sheff Utd and then Leeds (and now Brentford it seems) did and comfortably competing in the upper echelons, all of us here were realistic about our prospects.

    But I’m sure what we all hoped as the final whistle blew against Millwall and we knew our fate for 2021-22 was that we’d at least give it a damned good go. That we’d put ourselves in the very best position to stay up. Like we did last time we got promoted.

    On the evidence so far, have we?

    We all know the answer to that.

    And that’s what I find so upsetting and frustrating. It doesn’t have to be that way, even allowing for the financial constraints.

    We’ve gone into the season with a squad severely lacking in both quality and quality. We couldn’t fill all the places the league allows us. We’ve barely strengthened the defence. We’ve signed other clubs misfits. We’ve used up a place in attack on Fletcher. We’ve signed ageing players here for one last pay day and players prone to injury. We’ve had a few iffy departures too, both loaners and permanent. I’m not saying it was a totally terrible window per se but was it one that’s given us the best chance of survival?

    And then the Head Coach. I was a huge fan last season, at times one of the very few on here. I liked him. Okay he may not be the world’s greatest tactician but his enthusiasm and motivational skills were just what we needed, and the fact he got us promoted can not be taken away from him, whatever caustic comments people care to make about even their grandmothers getting that squad promoted. Munoz got us up and maybe he deserved his chance this year. But in keeping him, have we given ourselves the best chance of survival? I think we all know the answer. Oh that we’d been as ruthless as we were last time we got promoted.

    The fixture calendar gave us an early Christmas present, but instead we’ve wasted it. We’ve faced so many sides below us in the table, four winless opponents in a row, yet failed to get the number of points from those matches we could realistically have expected. We’ve not given ourselves the best chance of survival, of attacking that horrific looking run of forthcoming matches. We’ve not given any potential new Head Coach the best chance of keeping us up.

    Sorry for my long rant but I’m totally fed up. A crap performance. We’ve lost Etebo, King and Sierralta. Dennis is now one match off a ban. We look a total shambles, poorly put together and badly coached and set up. And it won’t stop raining.

    Thank the lord for the international break.
     
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  12. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Gino is a football man, football method - pozzo model football.
     
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  13. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Yep. Totally agree. It's almost unfair to expect Xisco to be capable of keeping this team of rag-tag misfits in this league. He was never the answer. That's on Gino and Dux.
     
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  14. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki Reservist

    October 2nd.
    The slide towards relegation begins in earnest.
    Once again, we need to beat the teams around us. We got away with a point last week against Newcastle when a trashing would have been a fair result.
    Are we good enough to beat the teams the lower half? It seems that we are way off the pace.
     
  15. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    No surprise indeed. That was an awful performance though which is a bigger concern.
     
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  16. Bore

    Bore Reservist

    Wow - Burnlet must also be ****. Drawing with Norwich

    Norwich, Watford, Burnley, Newcastle - what a poor standard this year
     
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  17. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Think it was 1-4, but totally agree. That was shocking. On my 17th Birthday as well!
     
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  18. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    Yes, but we won't bring in a pragmatic manager it will be some desperate no-mark. This is the real depressing thought.
     
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  19. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Sadly, I must say it was.
     
  20. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    You really are one of the biggest bell ends on this forum, aren't you? It's interesting, you seem to revel in it.
     
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  21. Eric IS Bananman

    Eric IS Bananman Academy Graduate

    I've just bought an advertising board for the next home game

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  22. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Xisco is the Spanish Aidy Boothroyd
     
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  23. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    We were well organised when we got promoted - the problem now is though, you can organise the team all you want, but if the players simply aren't good enough, are 2nd to basically every single 50-50 challenge, and are in many cases not up to the level either technically or fitness-wise, then there's only so much a manager can ultimately get out of them. Swapping managers with this bunch, and trying out a bunch of other different systems and tactics will basically just be like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.
     
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  24. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It's true that without Sarr we would find it much more difficult to get promoted again. However Xisco still did well to get us promoted. Ultimately I do still trust the Pozzos on their managerial appointments as they so often manage to pull rabbits out of hats, but how many managers capable of doing a better job than Xisco did last season are we going to be able to get to take us over once we get relegated again and cash in on Sarr? They won't be lining up.
     
  25. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    For all Rousey Boys stats about individual players who make up 1/11th of a football team, it’s pretty incredible that he thinks the person in charge of about 1000 different decisions regarding the whole 11 on the pitch is an irrelevance to how they perform collectively.
     
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  26. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Were we organised in the Championship or did we just have much better players than everyone else? I remember our midfield going missing plenty of times last season and that was with Hughes and Chalobah in there! I agree this squad isn't good enough but there's enough in our frontline to come up with some sort of plan to use them effectively.
     
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  27. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Including whether said players are fit for the season or not, or whether they have the mentality and drive to choose to compete and win 50/50s, apparently. Coaching has nothing to do with those things, whatsoever. Just got to hope and pray the football fairy gives you enough of each. Luck of the draw.
     
  28. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Bottom line: we need a really fooking top manager, regardless of the cost. Maybe by offering a humungous survival bonus.
     
  29. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Not incredible in the slightest. However it does show up the cognitive dissonance in the argument though.
     
  30. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    However bad our squad is. We’re certainly not 33% possession and 1 shot on target against a team who hadn’t won a game all season bad.
     
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  31. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Yep. From my experience Leeds fans are by far the scummiest bunch out there. Most of them still think it's the early 1980s
     
  32. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Let me get this straight. After that performance you are mostly concerned with people critical of it on a forum? And you think people are happy that we lost and put in that performance because they get to moan about it?

    I can only speak for myself but to me that performance makes me sad because I am fearing what happens when we play the genuine big boys.
     
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  33. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    That was quite possibly the single worst away performance I have ever had the absolute mispleasure to witness. Clueless on and off the ball with no cohesion or presence to win it in midfield.

    Xisco out.
     
  34. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Yep. His hearts not in it anymore.
     
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  35. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    To be fair we were sh1t today and it isnt just the BW's saying it.
     
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