Thrashed 1-0. Leeds, for all the mystique around the great Bielsa, were *****. We were many times worse. The end.
From what everyone says I can't see Munoz being with us by Monday. A very endearing man but that is not going to help him here.
Get the Xisgrace out of our ******* club tonight. An utterly abysmal display - even worse than last week; shockingly inept, with no tactics, no spirit, no gameplan, no idea, and against another team who haven't won a game this season until they met us. If you think it couldn't get worse, it could. And it will continue to do so. The prospect of facing a top 6 team is like some kind of untold punishment from the ancient world. If we are to stand any chance of survival this season whatsoever, two things need to happen: 1. The Xisgrace gone posthaste. 2. A BRILLIANT January window, the likes of which we have never seen before, and I'm not sure Gino is capable of.
Woeful, we were lucky to score nil. How we were still in the game up to the final whistle I will never know. The lack of composure by some of our, what I thought were, experienced players was laughable. They battered us.
Genuinely can't remember a time we were this poor for an entire 90 minutes against such an average side. I remember walking out at Reading away on Boxing Day in about 2004 ish when we lost 4-0. Terrible. Not a single positive to take from that, not one! Alarming performances against teams we should be competing with. Brighton, Wolves, Newcastle and Leeds. Xisco's days are numbered and the players have done him no favours. He hasn't done himself any either. Bottom 3 in a few weeks with a long bleak winter ahead.
I suspect this image is being dusted off as we speak. Either the players have no faith or don't care or the management has no ideas how to move the team forward.
No need for any big write ups and summaries, that was as bad as it could possibly be, nothing positive to take from it, just an utterly woeful performance from start to finish. The absolute pits.
When the biggest (and pretty much only) positive from today's game was Dennis getting booked for (correctly) telling the ref he's blind, you know you've just seen a stinker. I have no idea what we were trying to do today. Yes, we incorrectly has a goal disallowed, but whether that is counted or not the performance today was dire. The player look jittery and like they have no idea what they're supposed to be doing. Even the simplest things aren't coming off, to the point that it almost seems deliberate. If so, that's only going to end one way. We're looking worse every week. Given the squad has enough about it to stay up (lengthy injury list aside), I think there is really only one answer at this point. One of the worst performances I've seen from us in the top flight.
If we bring a decent manager in we might still not have enough to avoid the drop, but at least we'd have a chance. With Xisco we've go no chance.
You got the progressive, exciting and thought provoking display you wanted but sadly it was by the opposition.
We were absolutely thrashed 1-0. We got exactly what we deserved out of that game. Our transition from defence to attack is woeful. We just gave it away far too often. We got away with it in the championship but you normally get punished in the EPL. It's only because Leeds were rubbish at finishing that stopped that being a rout. We won't get away with that against the top 4.
How many points can we scrape together before January, when we actually get the chance to strengthen (we won't strengthen). Agree with others. Would be genuinely shocked of we don't get relegated. It's all a result of terrible decisions from the hierarchy. This season was always a long shot. We needed lot's of luck with injuries and the coach hitting the ground running. Neither have happened. Hopefully we are in a position where we can bounce back next season (I'm far from convinced that we will be)
….. but it wasn’t though. Bielsa ball is crap. Over-played twattery. Let’s not puff up a borderline relegation rival by pretending they’re some sort of football gods.
The fans who travelled should be refunded for that s h I t show we don't have a bad team I actually think on paper we could be mid table quite comfortably but I think we would be better managerless than have xisco take charge of one more game there is no tactical aspect to our game what so ever its like picking 11 strangers off the street and throw a football in. I could have got us promoted from the championship with the squad we had, that is not an achievement that should keep him on
No chance we get a replacement that has any real pedigree. It'll be dull, relegation expert, or another cheap punt.
We need relegating. We're stinking out the Premier League. Hopeless List ---------------- Kiko (wafer thin) Sarr Kuscko Dennis Sissoko (anonymous) Tried Hard List ------------------- Rose Pedro Foster Sema Comedy Slapstick House of Fun List Troost Ekong (What? Where? When?) Kabasele (Unlucky with the diving bullet header aimed at Foster's bottom corner, but gave away a pathetic and inexplicable foul to prevent us from equalising. So well done Kabs.)
A truly disgusting and unacceptable performance, spearheaded by our woefully inept, clapping, clueless moron of a "coach". Honestly cannot believe we have this man in charge as a Premier League football club. It's unforgiveable.
For all that Leeds absolutely battered us, we should have come away with a (completely undeserved) 1-1 draw - they could only score from a corner, and our corner-kick goal shouldn't have been disallowed. I really don't understand the calls to get rid of Xisco, this is a squad assembled on a complete shoestring budget and even Pep or Klopp would struggle with it. No different manager is going to make King and Kucka roll back the years, or Tufan and Rose suddenly shed all their excess pounds, or get Troost-Ekong to not crap the bed with his passing every time he's pressed. Only half our team is properly good enough for this level, the rest are crocks, has-beens, punts, or wildly erratic and inconsistent. One concern I do have though is how knackered so many of our players did look, combined with the fact that we're now suddenly losing a lot of players through injuries in games. Something does seem a bit wrong there, but it's hard to tell what to put it down to exactly. But even with all our team fully fit and firing this season was always going to be a struggle. Our only hope this season really will be if three other teams somehow manage to be worse than us. At the moment Norwich, Burnley and perhaps Newcastle seem to be the ones who could just about manage to plumb such depths. Spare a thought for Burnley fans today as they failed to even beat Norwich at home. I do think we should still stick with Xisco. What decent manager is going to want to take on this bunch of bargain basement misfits? Worst case we unsurprisingly get relegated given the nature of our squad, but Xisco would then be a decent bet for getting us back promoted again - at which point we might hopefully be able to appoint a different manager again but with more in the way of a budget and competent squad for them to work with.
So so lucky it was only 1. Only Rose and Foster (though he got lucky on occasions) can take any credit. Troost-Ekong and Sierralta did some good things but eroded any credit built up with mistakes. Think it was a strange decision not to play Sarr or any midfielders, that might have made it a bit more of a game.
I don’t buy all this nonsense about managers not wanting to join us, Gino has lost the plot, he did the correct thing giving Joka the can and getting someone qualified for the task in. The manager then had a whole pre season to work with the players. We’re going to struggle now because the season is well underway, so it will be a panic appointment. Gino needs his balls back and fast, this was always going to end in tears.
At least Rose, Sissoko, Sarr and Dennis won't be here next season. Doubt we'll sign Etebo either. Another rebuild job.
I’m not having that. Today isn’t a refund day. It’s a mandatory mental health check for all travelling fans, for the good of wider society.
I think Xisco has to go. He was unqualified at Championship level - but his positivity, coupled with a great squad at that level, carried him through. But being unqualified at this level with a squad that doesn’t come near to the quality of the majority of the rest of the league is a whole different ballgame - no amount of smiling and talk of ‘gladiators’ will make up the yawning chasm between being good enough and not. That said - I just don’t think the owner and his lackies have set the conditions for any new appointment to be anything other than ‘more of the same’. Lastly - I will be in the minority. I don’t think he’ll be sacked this weekend. Moreover, I don’t really think he will be sacked until we hit the bottom 3 and/or go on a run of losing games. We aren’t at that point yet. I suspect the firing will come 2-3 weeks after the international break. But it will come.
Not a chance in hell that Xisco would get us re-promoted if we drop down to the Championship. We wouldn't have gone up without Sarr with Xisco in charge, Sarr will not be around after we get relegated again.
Really gutting performance and result. Our current trajectory is guaranteed relegation. Our points total really flatters us. The decision to freeze out Hughes instead of letting him see out his contract is looking like a huge and spiteful misjudgement in line with the many misjudgements of the last 2.5 years. The one positive this season is that 4 other teams are also struggling which means if we bring in the right manager, play the right system and upgrade effectively in January we could still get the 28 or so more points we need to stay up. The problem is that based on the incompetent decision making of the last 2.5 years we wont bring in the right manager, we won't play the right system and we won't recruit the right players in January. The Pozzos did an amazing job for 6 of their first 7 years at Watford but nowadays it seems everything Gino touches turns to sh1£ unfortunately. Clearly Xisco's time us up. I say that with no malice and appreciate what he did for us. I await our next barely competent, bargain basement managerial appointment with trepidation.
The team rarely challenged for or won a second ball...two games in a row where the midfield haven't turned up either and when they get the ball, they hold on to it for too long. The team didn't know what to do there in the end, they tried a few things out but it didn't work, they tried to slow the game down, didnt work, tried to play them at their game, didnt work then tried hoofing it, didnt work. Etebo is a big big miss and no one in midfield was really holding place as a central focus, Sissoko shifts out wide too much allowing for gaps centrally, hopefully Xisco is aware of this and instructs Sissoko to stay central, or any one of Tufan/Cleverly/Gosling. That was the type of game Capoue would have been a good fit in, comfortable being pressed, can find a simple pass and would have kept pace with the game, Louza was Capoue's replacement, where was he? I feel he would have been pressed out the game regardless... we await to see what a fully fit Tufan can do. Cant really criticise Sarr/Dennis Sema too much but neither did they truly challenge for anything, along with the rest of the team. Poor performance all-round.
Are you omitting Foster from the comedy slapstick list? His charge and flap which led to the ball bouncing off the crossbar about an inch in front of the line forced the Entry of the Gladiators to play in my mind involuntarily. Troost did enough in that game to have given away 4 goals on his own to any sort of competent strikeforce.
Of course we do. We knew that and he knew that and wanted to be compensated accordingly. Instead, we sold him for nothing, replaced him with old or unfit players and the COG’s clapped along mindlessly. As usual.
