2021-22 Squad

Discussion in 'Former Players Archive' started by hornetboy1, Mar 21, 2021.

  1. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Looking forward to seeing how Pedro does in this side
     
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  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Will he play wide or through the middle ?
     
  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    The whole team will need to be replaced again next summer in the championship.
     
  4. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    He will play “bench”.
     
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  5. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    I think Pedro will be used centrally as he’s not fast enough to play on the wing in our current set-up.
    I think mostly he’ll have to accept being used as a sub, coming on as a 10 when we’re chasing a game. Maybe can get a run as the striker during AFCON depending on King’s fitness and form.
     
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  6. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Yeah I’m still not 100% on his best position. He’s too good to spend the season sitting on the bench. Not expecting him to be a guaranteed starter, but he’s such a talent there needs to be a place for him to fight for.

    He is good enough to fit into the 4-3-3 but I do feel a 4-2-3-1 would probably suit him better.
     
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  7. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Will he drift in from the left or right?
     
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  8. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Roaming playmaker slightly deeper than the other forwards me thinks.
     
  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I think he will drift out from the left
     
  10. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    I'd agree this is probably his best role currently, but we don't seem to use that in the current formation / system.
     
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  11. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    It could work in a 4231 system with him at the base of a diamond formation up front, I also think that would be Cucho's best position. They could share it with one starting and the other coming off the bench for 20/30 minutes or maybe less, depending on how any given game is going.
     
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  12. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Oh I fully agree it could work and would suit him. But the signs are we have very much built the team for 4-3-3 with hard working midfielders and mainly pacey forwards with a bit of skill in there as well.
     
  13. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    The squad list has now been submitted to the Prem. As expected there's only 23 players over 21.

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  14. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    So we lost the lot, which is both good and bad :cool:
     
  15. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    What a great gesture from the club to retire the number 9 ;)

    Or have we got to wait until January for a marquee signing?
     
  16. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    In January we will be that desperate, Troy will return on loan and reclaim the number 9 shirt


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  17. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    He could finally play the centre back role some of our fans are desperate to see him in!
     
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  18. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    He's only on the bench for brum tonight. We'll probably have to recall him from his loan due to lack of game time.
     
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  19. Rookery Refugee

    Rookery Refugee Reservist

    He'll probably get a run out with the U23s first.
     
  20. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    We ll have to wait and see
    We hope it’s chips it’s chips
    We hope it’s chips it’s chips
     
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  22. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  23. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  24. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    We haven't kept a clean sheet in the Premier League for 21 games now. In those 21 games we've had four different head coaches and we still can't keep goals out. We're still starting games with two or three of the defence that was so awful in the 19/20 season. It's easy to see where the blame lies. Nkoulou already looks better than the other centre backs, surely that could have been done in the summer?

    I actually gave Leventhal's podcast a listen because I was curious to hear what he'd say about the defence. He ended up saying something along the lines of the club are happy to see if Ranieri can mould a defence from the players already here once everyone is fit and Kabasele is back. It's absolute madness, obviously we can't do anything now but it sounds a lot like we are willing to let January pass without bringing another defender in.
     
  25. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I've never know the club have so many players that contribute absolutely zero to the team. Maybe I've just never noticed it with previous squads but there are players who literally do NOTHING.

    I'm not even talking about Cathcart, WTE, Masina etc, they're just terrible which everyone knows. No I'm talking about Tufan, Kucka, Gosling and Sema. They are just bodies that go out on the pitch and exist for 90, 70, 45 mins.
     
  26. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    This is what happens when you get involved with a people trafficking gang. They have no identity they sit on the sidelines turning up to training collecting 30k a week. They may get an extra spring in their step every few month when they hear a new set of coaching staffs voices but evidently doesn’t last long as they are proper **** players that get found out and the new coaching staff continue to play the old guard who under perform each week without fear of being dropped.


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  27. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    We could lose Gosling, Tufan and Sema and be better off as a squad and financially less burdened. We will lose Rose and be better off with Kamara in his stead. We could lose Kucka and at best be marginally worse off.

    I know why the club had to operate on low / no fee transfers this year and there have been some positives (King, Dennis, Sissoko and I'd include Fletcher as well) but neglecting the CB situation in the Summer has put us at such a huge disadvantage for a linchpin position. Sierralta looks increasingly unable to make the step up unfortunately and Bachmann has not improved in the game time he's been given.

    A CB and GK are absolute musts to have a good shot of survival. A CM to go with Kayambe would be highly recommended.

    It hurts to watch us because there is a good team here (See Chelsea, Man U etc) but we just aren't seeing it. It's not Ranieri as this is a squad quality issue than coaching problem. With Samir and a move to 3 ATB with Sierralta receiving some additional cover and Cathcart / WTE / Kabasele to just not be thick hopefully we see a more stable platform to build off.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2022
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  28. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Looks like we are going for a 3 at the back, though the worry is having seen Sierralta today, and having heard the news about Nkoulou it begs the question of who is going to accompany him
     
  29. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Cathcart is a definite IMO
     
  30. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Why does it? The worst possible thing we could do is increase the quota of our awful centre backs in the starting line up.

    Samir and whoever else comes in should be replacing the two centre backs, not going in alongside them.

    It would be ******* unbelievable if we sign new centre backs to replace dross like Cathcart, only to go three at the back so he still ******* plays.
     
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  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Well the three players we've signed recently have a track record of playing in systems with a back 3, so it begs the question, what is our plan?
     
  32. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    So any player who's used to playing in a certain system must only ever play there?

    We don't need to change the system, we just need defenders who can actually competently do their jobs.

    No doubt if we switch to a back three it'll affect out ability to score goals and that side of things will dry up instead.
     
  33. LouOrns

    LouOrns First Year Pro

    It’s easier to win games by scoring 1 goal than scoring 3. Changing to a back three is the logical way to go, otherwise the signings we’ve made make no sense whatsoever
     
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  34. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    It also makes no sense whatsoever to move to a formation that includes even more of our terrible centre backs.

    I'm not sure safety in numbers is going to work out when those numbers include the likes of Cathcart and/or Ekong.
     
  35. NemoNemo

    NemoNemo Reservist

    I've always liked 3-5-2 but there must be a plan B if it's not working, especially if the opposing team works the wings well.

    3 in the middle protecting the back line and playing fast counter attack football. I think this setup could save our season, especially as we have a decent strike force that are good for at least a goal a game. It's closing shop that's the problem
     
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