Covid-19 Virus

No, that's just the Man City games.

 

I'm sorry to hear that's what you have been doing. Seems unnecessary to me.

I've been pretty busy of late and tomorrow I'll be enjoying the sunshine at the seaside.

 

No, I see no need to do that, but thanks anyway.

Why don't you concentrate on our situation rather than try to send everyone off track by obsessing about the French, what with few of us here being French or living in France. It's a transparent and flimsy distraction from our domestic mess.

 

I'm currently in Devon, but have been in a hazmat suit the entire time.

 

I see, so rather than hiding in a dark hole, you are having a luvverly time at the seaside?

This wasn't you, last year, stocking up on the way there?

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/13/man-spotted-shopping-tesco-full-hazmat-suit-gas-mask-12394246/

 

It’s true. Idiots, unwilling to take it seriously will continue spreading it.

 

The thing about this sort of argument is - it’s inevitable you notice those who don’t comply. The vast majority who do are almost invisible.

I don’t doubt there are idiots - there always have been - but I do question whether we are talking about “large sections of the public” in this context (or any other, for that matter).

 

Too right. Place is full of ******* janners.

 

It’s a relatively simple equation once we cut through the holier than thou slant. Would you prefer the peak now (ish) or in October (ish)? Choose your poison…

 

MaSKs WOrK foLKs:

 

Ok. Let’s say that’s a somewhat simplistic view. For instance, where was everyone catching it and were they mandated to wear masks there?

 

And idiots who try to save every life from COVID, as if if is something within their power to do, will continue to just outright kill other people, quite likely more than would die from COVID, by crippling the economy and population by scaring the bejesus out of everyone, so that companies fail and lose money, and people commit suicide, miss doctor's appointments, fail to have life threatening conditions diagnose and fall into depression.

Short sightedness and virtue signalling is going to kill way more people than COVID, I believe, and quite likely already has. The majority of people who have died from the disease, sadly, would possibly have died within a year of underlying health conditions anyway. Those who die from late diagnosis and suicide could have many decades ahead of them. I hope the people who want everything to stop for COVID are happy to take responsibility for that, in the same way they expect others to take responsibility for the COVID deaths, that almost certainly have happened anyway.

 

Back in December, during the last peak, it was supermarkets:

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...navirus-in-england-latest-data-shows-12136418

Masks aplenty there!

(Obviously PHE wuss out and say that’s not necessarily where people were catching it, but bearing in mind nearly everywhere else was shut and wider compliance with the rules against association was high, I think we’re safe in drawing our own conclusions.)

 

Clever people of the forum, is there data to show the breakdown of the current infection and hospital cases between double-jabbed and unjabbed? Presumably the spiralling cases is largely down to younger and unjabbed population ? If you could point me in the right direction without telling me if it's the Tories fault or not, that would be even better .
With Tringfest cancelled on Saturday, we are having a bunch of friends over, 5 days before we fly to Iceland, and I need to assess on a scale of 1-10 how foolish that would be.

 

Causation or correlation?

A feature of both peaks was a reluctance to shut down early enough. It then spread at home, among work colleagues and sure, where people gathered.

It’s irrelevant if your one trip out is to the supermarket if your kids bring it from school, your partner from work or your carer from another home.

No one has ever suggested that masks are 100% effective. They can’t be when they are not used 100%. But other countries seem to have employed masks to greater effectiveness or at least they correlate there to different outcomes. And masks here will have contributed to prevention and shutting waves down, I can’t see a reason to doubt that.

 

Queueing to pay for petrol yesterday I had the pleasure of standing next to a chap who was unmasked and coughing and spluttering everywhere who was buying cough sweets, paracetamol and Lemsip flu remedy!

 

Depends whether Brentford win their game in hand, which would reduce your chances to 35%.

 

I think Brentford will beat Arsenal in the season-opener so we will already be 3 points behind them before we lose at home to Villa :-(

 

Don’t rule out Muff.

 

Think we are safe until next season, unless they get promoted and pass us.
Anyway.....covid cases amongst the double-jabbed ? High, low, negligible ?

 

You know the answer, don’t you? Low, but not non-existent.

If the holiday means more to you than the get-together, I’d be inclined to postpone the latter until your return. It will probably be OK, but why take the risk?

 

After thinking they thought they could ignore being pinged by the NHS, Johnson and Sunak make a massive U-turn and self-isolate like the rest of us would have to.

Our incompetent and narcissistic PM is having to self-isolate tomorrow. On 'Freedom' Day. Oh the irony!

 

I don’t get the deleting the app thing. Why not just ignore the ping? Or does it keep pinging? In which case - pop it on do not disturb…

 

Yeah, I get that dimension. That wasn’t my question - if you do decide to ignore it, why bother going the whole hog to delete the app?

 

Maybe because the app serves no other purpose? It’s different to the NHS app that holds the Covid passes, so it’s basically just a liability with zero upside.

 

But your friend was going to delete it for the day - unless I have misunderstood? That just seems… odd.

 

Mmmm, but why not do this months ago, then?

I should fess up. Mrs Keighley and I have never downloaded it. Not because we’re irresponsible- far from it, actually. It’s more that, at least until the last fortnight or so, we had hardly been out of the house or seen anyone for 15 months…