Millwall & Wham Show Themselves Up - Again

It's always them, isn't it? Shameful really.

Still, nice for the odious wall to subsequently get beat at home by diabolical Derby and even nicer for the (w*nky)West Ham thumbmen and thumbladies to watch three black players score against 'em in a home humbling. Bet that made them grunt and oink. Few wife beatings in Pitsea and Billericay last night I shouldn't wonder.

 

I believe, reading an article by one of their black players Millwall had already stated they’d take the knee until the end of the year. So those idiotic Millwall fans only had to ‘put up with it’ for a few more weeks anyway.

 

Will have some support on here from the 'All Lives Matter' crowd I'm sure.

 

and now the Governement are telling people to respect the racists. Unbelievable.

 

All reasonable people agree that black lives matter, but it is entirely inappropriate for the FA to have allowed football to be used to promote a political organisation with such extreme aims and views as 'Black Lives Matter.' Not endorsing the BLM agenda does not equal 'racist'

 

Taking a knee wasn't started by BLM, but they have adopted it as a symbol. Originally it was just a protest against police brutality to black people in the US, not supporting BLM directly.

On this basis, booing people taking the knee because you disagree with the idealism of BLM doesn't stack up. You're either booing because you support police brutality or because you're ignorant. If you don't like it just stand there quietly for 20 seconds.

 

The taking of the knee was never intended to be in support of the political organisation BLM - more the movement of the same name, therefore it's not political. This was always the case but was just a convenient excuse for the racists to try and justify their racism of not getting behind the BLM movement.

So to avoid any confusion they are taking the knee in support of the No Room For Racism (PL) and Not Today or Any Day (EFL) campaigns instead of BLM. And guess what - people are still booing. I wonder why? Is it because....they are racist?

 

Having belatedly woken up to what BLM stands for football clubs and the media are trying to distance themselves from it and no longer have the BLM logo on shirts, ad breaks etc. As you say they are now promoting the idea that taking the knee is a show of support for such worthy organisations as the ones you mention, but I'm afraid it's no surprise given the FA's rush to align football with BLM that many fans will still see this pre-match ritual as an endorsement of BLM

 

The first line simply isn’t true though. That’s why there is ‘Black Lives Matter’.

If it is you’d have to also argue that many of those ‘reasonable people’ think that nothing whatsoever should be done about those lives that apparently matter to them.

 

Millwall fans are very intelligent people and fully understand the political nuances between the different campaigns. They have no history of racism so clearly it's just a frustration thing.

 

So we can never have an anti-racism campaign again?

 

A problem with this is that what you think it stands for is what some belligerent white people with media platforms think it stands for. What black people think is likely to be something different.

 

No, not at all. But taking the knee is intrinsically linked with BLM and that's what fans were booing - not black people.

 

How many people in the general population were aware of 'taking the knee' before the BLM activity this Spring/Summer? Of course it's considered as a salute to BLM

 

No, Taking the knee is intrinsically linked with the civil rights movement and has been since the Rev. Martin Luther King lead a group of protesters in prayer in Alabama, 1965.

Disco!

 

The element of the Millwall fan base who booed did so because they don’t like the idea of their team endorsing an anti-racist message (which is the club’s stated aim). And that’s because they are themselves racist. To deny that is deluded, I’m afraid.

 

Who's the leader? How many members do they have? Can't seem to find any record of them on the Electoral Commission: http://search.electoralcommission.o...regStatus=registered&optCols=EntityStatusName

 

That may be so but I'm not sure that's the thing that Millwall fans had in mind during their peaceful protest yesterday. By the way, its a shame
BLM don't endorse Dr King's non-violent approach to protesting

 

I meant BLM more widely.

 

@iamofwfc following the chat, too afraid to post his own views and have to defend them as usual.

 

“a riot is the language of the unheard”

 

You don't believe BLM is a political organisation? What do you think it is?

 

Possibly. But shouldn't they be given a platform to explain their actions instead of being dismissed as racists on the evidence of a 10 second Youtube clip?

 

Since it's not registered as one, it can't be a political organisation, so no.

 

OK

 

It's run by Obama and The Clintons.

 

Sad acts now laying into Dawn French and the BBC on Twitter as fictional vicar takes the knee.

UKIP leader Gerard Batten even spots an upside down cross and decides it’s satanic (er, it’s not). This is the level anti BLM is at.
https://twitter.com/gerardbattenuk/status/1335561161991970817?s=21

 

Not surprised - scum fans, and the clubs pay lip service when these issues occur, and have done nothing to sort themselves out.

 

And he uses the wrong spelling of 'licence'.

 

He was incensed.

 

MLK has a very sanitised image these days, back then many people (and certainly not just people in the KKK) saw him and his ideas as dangerous, and while he didn't condone riots that happened in his day, he did as you say understand that they didn't just emerge out of thin air. It's very infuriating seeing right-wing types quote him out of context given that he certainly wouldn't be on their side if he were still alive today...

 

I always find it curious when white folk invoke his legacy whenever black folk get a little feisty... in his later years he absolutely accepted that urban riots, looting and violence are unfortunate but entirely necessary.

 

It is now officially registered in the UK as a "community benefit organisation" under the name 'Black Liberation Movement UK' (Black Lives Matter UK was already taken):

"Speaking on behalf of the group, Lemara Francis said: “BLM is proud to be a political organisation, but has no plans to set up a political party."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...with-renaming-as-black-liberation-movement-uk
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ehind-attempt-to-use-name-for-political-party

 

By the literal definition of political organisation they aren't though, even if they say they are.