Werewolf XVII - Day Three

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  1. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    HG has constantly said they're confused, so is that wise :sign13:
     
  2. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Why no traitor?
     
  3. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    I am confused, because once I see a post, I think "Hmmmm...interesting" and don't develop the thought properly before reading the next post from someone different and losing my train of thought.

    Of course, working from home is easier to play, then you have distractions with phone calls and emails.

    I have a feeling I know who the Guardian is, but then thought he could also be a tinker - but I'm more convinced he's a guardian, having thought about.

    I have a hunch on one of the wolves, however I need to go back over the posts again so don't want to throw any accusations.

    I kind of had a feeling Moog was good, but the problem is I like seeing posts from one person in isolation to see if there is a pattern.

    I'll admit I was totally wrong on WAS because he was painting me as evil when there was nothing to suggest in the messages that I was - in a bid to save himself.

    So unless I'm in character (and repeated ad nauseam - I'm new), I'm trying to understand people's thought patterns and how they come to conclusions.

    I am the Lloyd Doyley if this game - plays along but no clue what is happening.
     
  4. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    More than happy for Seer to view me. But I would point out that I did say I thought lynching WAS was a mistake. If cthutlhu was a wolf and not the traitor (only 1 kill that night so possible) then I would still be looking at those who didn't vote for WT on Day 1. If cthutlhu was traitor, though, all bets are off since the wolves don't know each other.
     
  5. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Only the traitor knew for sure who was evil on day 1 and cthulhu voted for a good person.
    Only Moog knew for sure who wasn't evil and voted for the other than good person.

    Everyone else was guessing. You can draw nothing else from the day 1 vote.
     
  6. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    The late message probably means that there isn't a second seer IMO.

    A second seer would put a message in early and force the wolf to respond.
     
  7. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    OK I've been analysing the threads so far and have come up with the following, based on the fact that I believe wolves would be careful not to implicate other wolves until they know who's who.

    Villagers who've openly thrown accusations: Myself, Mike, Cassetti, Meh, Harrow.

    Villagers who've got splinters up their backsides: Ashdon, HappyHornet

    Then there's 352. He said yesterday that he suspects WaS, (was good), Moog, (was the seer), and me, (obviously only I know I'm good). He was so spot on that I'd even suspect him of being the traitor if I didn't think he was already dead.

    Look closely at Ashdon, Happy and 352. I'm guessing we'll find 2 out of 3 furries in that lot.
     
  8. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    This has to be the least active game so far. Come on everybody, get chatting/debating.
     
  9. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Hard to debate with no messages. Either we have no second seer and an inactive wolf or both are waiting for the other to make the first move? Unless Opti's been called out for the day - isn't he a vet?

    Harsh to say I have splinters in my backside, Diamond. To be fair, I was the only dissenting voice re WAS - unfortunately, because I'd been out, the vote was done and dusted by the time I caught up.
     
  10. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Doesn't sound like a good night for us last night then! I've just landed back in the UK so will have a read of this at baggage reclaim!
     
  11. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    ADMINS NOTE Ive been working all day. I am open for business as of now.
     
  12. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    ADMINS NOTE 2: Please only email me, problems with the PM system. Not my end.
     
  13. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    We've definitely suffered from no early messages. We've been debating with pretty much nothing to go on most of the days with a rush of activity at day's end.

    Not sure if that was the message being left late of the admin posting it late, but we've not really been able to talk about anything and we didn't get a timestamp on when the messages were left either which hampers us a little as to what may have prompted them.

    I'd be really reluctant to lynch HH24 on the basis of a coincidental message around the same time of posting as the 2nd message, but that may be all we really have to go on for this vote unless some last minute Seer message arrives?
     
  14. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    It was only a theory. Come to think of it, your point that we only see the messages when Opti is able to post them kind of goes against it as the message could have been sent to Opti in the morning!

    Oh well. I'm certain there's another seer around, and we'll see their message at some point today.
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2016
  15. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    I'm going to have to make a vote at 5ish or hope I can get 5 minutes to log in later this evening which might be doubtful.
     
  16. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Anonymous Message #1

    Hi all. I am the second seer. Moog was definitely the first seer. I viewed Diamond after being accused by GOOD HornetGags yesterday. They are EVIL. One more to go!
     
  17. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Time to start throwing wild accusations around...I think the wolves are Mike and Diamond, because if you take their usernames, add certain letters and take some away...then you get 'Wolf'
     
  18. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Anonymous Message #2

    Afternoon villagers,

    It was a bad night for team good, losing our Seer. But the good news is, there is a back up and I am it. I decided to view Diamond, as he is one of the more experienced players and I was wondering if he was accusing others to deflect attention from himself. But he is good. Be careful with your accusations, though - we don't want to lose another Seer. Stay Safe.

    Your Seer.
     
  19. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Admins Note: Please do not read anything into timings of todays messages, been very busy at work. Messages were waiting for me when I returned this afternoon, I then got sucked into another meeting with a drug rep prior to be able to post messages. Apologies to all.
     
  20. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Did we deduce the traitor or tinker was dead?
     
  21. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    This is for my benefit so I don't keep having scoll up and down

    Anonymous Message #1

    Hi all. I am the second seer. Moog was definitely the first seer. I viewed Diamond after being accused by GOOD HornetGags yesterday. They are EVIL. One more to go!

    Anonymous Message #2

    Afternoon villagers,

    It was a bad night for team good, losing our Seer. But the good news is, there is a back up and I am it. I decided to view Diamond, as he is one of the more experienced players and I was wondering if he was accusing others to deflect attention from himself. But he is good. Be careful with your accusations, though - we don't want to lose another Seer. Stay Safe.

    Your Seer.
     
  22. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Ok that's interesting. I know I'm good, (you have to trust me on that), so message 1 is from the Wolf, message 2 is from the Seer.

    Take good heed of message 2.

    I obviously got the full attention of the Alpha Wolf with my post above! (post 42)
     
  23. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    First message is the wolf. Second message is the seer.

    Here is my reasoning:

    Opti has posted the messages only 1 minute apart. I severely doubt, therefore, that the second message a reaction to the first message. I believe therefore that it's a coincidence that Diamond has been both viewed by the seer and picked out by the wolf.

    As such, why would the wolf say "Diamond is good". He would surely try and get rid of another person by calling them evil. Therefore, that's why I think the second message is from the seer rather than the wolf.

    Does that make sense?
     
  24. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    See my post above. Only reason I am looking at timings is to indicate that the second was not a reaction to the first.
     
  25. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    I think you may be correct. I'm edging towards HH myself.
     
  26. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    HH or Ashdon for me tonight.
     
  27. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    I'm happy to go with HH24, but this just sticks in my head from the first page from them:

    Shocking news about Hornmeister. I'm particularly sad since he was such a litigious member of the village. I'll be watching my back since I suspect I am about as popular as Diamond. And watch out anyone who's thinking of making any false accusations in my direction....

    Very bold for a wolf, unless they were the full moon wolf.

    At least with Diamond we would have a 50/50 choice as has been named. Guess depends how much we believe messages 1 and 2. I'm as confused as ever. Gonna need to vote soon though.
     
  28. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Even though I am one of the ones Diamond is suspicious of, I agree with this. From what Opti said it sounds like both messages were sent independently of one another. The only way the second message would work as the wolf's would be if Diamond were the wolf and was trying to exonerate himself. But he's too clever a player to do that. Therefore I think the second message is the legitimate one and that Diamond is good.
     
  29. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Am I allowed to say who I think is the Guardian?
     
  30. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    It was unclear if we had a second seer at the time. The wolf may have viewed Diamond as evil, but said good in the absense of another message, thereby clearing Diamond of any votes for the next day at least and keeping 2 wolves in overnight?
     
  31. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    The wolf doesn't view players - only the seer does.
     
  32. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    No! Don't! They'll be killed off!
     
  33. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Ah ok.
     
  34. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Don't worry I wasn't going to blurt it out....just asking the question.
     
  35. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    OK. I know I am good. I know Hornetgags is good. I believe the second message is from the seer so I believe Diamond is good. Diamond was the first to point the finger of suspicion at me. If I were the wolf, I would be the first to vote for Diamond, or to say that I thought the first message was the seer's. But I want team good to win. I don't think we should lynch Diamond and I know you shouldn't lynch me.
     
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