Werewolf XVI: Day 6

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  1. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Nothing better than the fish biting when the baits hung out

    Huff and Puff - PO
     
  2. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    But why? If you're sure WAS is the wolf, try to convince us for the good of all! Everyone else is probably like me and waiting for a second message.
     
  3. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Where is everyone today? PO is very persuasive but, since we know we have a Seer, I would have thought he would post earlier rather than later. Why would he leave us hanging with no info?
     
  4. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    My instinct says that message is from the seer. The chances of viewing the single evil player were very low, and if it was a wolf posting first I presume they would've lead with a message declaring someone as evil.

    Imagine if this was from the wolf. Then he's waiting on a message from the seer which will 1. likely declare a player as good- in which case people may well vote off someone not mentioned in the messages and puts the wolf at risk 2. the seer successfully views the wolf as evil- in which case he's screwed. It makes no sense in my opinion for the wolf to lead with a good message, whereas if he led with an evil message then everyone would likely end up voting the mentioned player off. In short, the wolf has nothing to gain from a good message and everything to gain from an evil one.

    Also worth noting that the first message today was posted not too far off the same time as the seers message yesterday. Could be a coincidence or clever wolf play, but if the second message doesn't arrive soon I believe that will be a further indication, as it was the wolfs tactic to wait until mid afternoon yesterday to post.

    If this first message is indeed from the seer it does create a conundrum for who to vote for since we have no leads to go on. So as always, hopefully the second message will make things clearer and we must wait for it before deciding what to do.
     
  5. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    Am I missing something? How can you be so sure that message is from the wolf. I would like to know your reasoning. It's also a bit silly to vote so early whilst we're still waiting on a second message
     
  6. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Thank you WFCMatt. It couldn't be clarified any better
     
  7. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Off out now until around 5pm. Hopefully things will be clearer by then. In the absence of any further info, it seems like a choice between PO and WAS.
     
  8. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    How is PO "very persuasive"? Genuine question. Have I missed something from last week because there's bugger all evidence today?
     
  9. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    5pm is my midnight. I don't intend being here then.

    Frankly, evil has played a rubbish game but good is being worse.

    WAS is our last wolf but if you want to faff any more about then I welcome the full moon...at least I will have a chance of changing sides to one that might win.
     
  10. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    You probably missed an awful lot from last week, like ABSO and Merchandiseman...don't play the game if, well if you are not going to play the game.
     
  11. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Mind games.

    If the message is from the Seer, and implicates WaS as evil, then i'd imagine WaS being the wolf would want to post sooner rather than later - it's game over if it's true, especially as he's got one vote already.
    If the message is from the Wolf, it's common sense to implicate WaS, knowing we'd more than likely vote him off based on Friday's voting (and standing up for Moog).
     
  12. sonofben

    sonofben Reservist

    Hey all traveling a bit today so will be on later than normal
     
  13. 352

    352 Moderator

    Second message has come in.

    Anonymous message #2:

     
  14. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Edit

     
  15. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    Interesting, might have to look back if I have time at other days, I have a suspician thoigh
     
  16. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    It's a fair cop guv'nor and no mistake, you got me banged to rights. I am the last wolf....lynch me and put me out of my misery...PLEASE
     
  17. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Your charm offensive continues...

    If you're good and wish for good to win, it would make sense to me that you attempt to convince others with persuasion and evidence.
     
  18. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Strange. I reckon one of the messages is the wolf trying to clear his name, but, which one?

    I'm going to predict WAS for now, but wont vote so he has a chance to defend himself.
     
  19. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    You're the only person I've seen mention Abso and the second message comes in minute later mentioning Abso?

    On my phone but is Opti still alive? Super quiet
     
  20. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    What are you insinuating here?
     
  21. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Why would anyone view Abso? It'd be a very random viewing because my memory remember anything.
     
  22. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Risky strategy given there will be an extra wolf tonight if the game lasts that long. However, it might be worthwhile for WAS if he is the wolf and felt sufficiently threatened by PO.
     
  23. merchandiseman41

    merchandiseman41 Reservist

    On the second day if my memory serves me right Abso asked if I was selling sheep skins in the shop. Very random.

    For what my opinion is worth I think the second is Wolf.
     
  24. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Abso was the first person after Moog to vote for me on Friday. Gave no reason for it either. I feel like he might have been trying to start a flurry of votes against me in order to protect his wolf friend.

    Basically, anybody who voted for me on Friday is under suspicion in my eyes; WAS, Abso and sonofben.

    The latter of the three I just have a gut feeling is good.
     
  25. merchandiseman41

    merchandiseman41 Reservist

    Can't always afford the time to read and digest the info Un like some.

    Every day last week the decision had been made and voting had been a forgone conclusion before the late afternoon early evening.

    Absolutely no point in posting to persuade another way or for the sake of it
     
  26. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    So whoever viewed Abso has either agreed with your theory or the second message is from you.

    I don't remember seeing anyone vocally agree with you on your theory. Then again wfcmoog was evil and if the wolves know each other why would he vote for you?

    Or did one of you risk your lives to take suspicion away from the other and hope to make it to full moon day..

    So many possibilities.
     
  27. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Maybe they agreed with me, yes, but I am in no position to write an anonymous message. I am a villager and that's already been made almost certain.

    I have not seen anybody say anything about Abso, but anybody who didn't vote Moog surely has to be suspicious considering he was a wolf? And the reason they voted for me, is to keep a wolf alive maybe for an extra day at least? I reckon they are really clinging on here to make full moon day like you say.

    I really think it's between WAS and Abso.
     
  28. merchandiseman41

    merchandiseman41 Reservist

    I would have voted for you on Friday. I thought I had but my vote didn't register

    Don't forget your a simple villager
     
  29. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Can you see the mistake in message 2 ?

    "I still think it is too early for With A Smile to be making such a brazen move as declaring himself evil."

    I haven't declared myself as evil
     
  30. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Rubbish defence.
     
  31. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    Ah, well that second message doesn't clear things up at all like I hoped. One thing for certain is we have a very clever wolf amongst the pack who has named a player as good to create confusion over who to vote for. Regardless of which message is from the seer/wolf, we have no great leads as I believe both mentioned are good. Although possible I highly doubt the wolf would risk naming themselves as good in a message at this stage of the game right before a full moon.
     
  32. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    I noticed that too- it is a bizarre statement to make. However I don't believe it reveals who wrote the message as it's just a silly mistake either the wolf or the seer could make
     
  33. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Cheers, I appreciate that

    As you know once you have been viewed its very hard to cast a defence. I think Matt made a really really good post earlier that's worth reading again


    I do think that there was enough pressure on the wolf not to name me as evil. I think that if he or she had done that it would have been clear where the message had come from, so hats off to the wolf for not falling into that trap

    The only person apart from myself that is 100% sure that I am good is the seer. SEER If the majority do vote for me, make sure you do the same. Do not leave yourself out as a easy target for the wolf, especially if we aren't going to get a 3rd seer. If I am likely to be lynched then I will make a vote for someone that i have suspected for a couple of days and dropped a few hints about.

    Shame I don't have a dog
     
  34. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Where is opti
     
  35. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Can I just ask before anyone else votes that you wait for Abso to defend himself as well. To find out why he MIGHT have been named in a message from the wolf ?
     
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