Xmas 2020

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by hornmeister, Nov 18, 2020.

  1. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Unfortunately, I think lockdown/s (Or Tier 3+/4 or whatever they want to call it) will continue regardless of Christmas gatherings, currently 13,565 in hospital (1st wave peak was 17,172), and with the current daily recorded infections it seems unlikely this figure is going to reduce anytime soon.
     
  2. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    So sorry to hear this. I do know what it’s like to lose a parent so really feel for you that you weren’t able to spend the time with your dad that you might have in the months before he died.
     
  3. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    The problem is that the group most directly affected by lockdown are those in their teens and twenties - the age when you have few responsibilities and socialising with your friends is central to your life. Dare I say it, that this is also probably the group least bothered about the prospect of spending Xmas in large groups of extended family. So it seems a bit unfair to curtail them for another month or more just so that great aunt Edith can do the rounds over the festive period. I don’t see why any more than two households need to be allowed to meet over Christmas. I’d rather do that and get back to some form of day to day normality quicker.
     
  4. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    I have quite a dark humoured response to this but not sure if it should be posted
     
  5. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    I think the government is going to have to relax the rules over xmas.

    There is no way that the British public will not travel home to see their respective families over the xmas break.

    If the government try to enforce the current rules over xmas, they will have a revolt on their hands.
     
  6. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    They will then do another lockdown.
     
  7. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Sorry to hear that. Best wishes to all of your family in what sounds like a rough time.
     
  8. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Reservist

    sad to hear, hope everybody comes through it ok
     
  9. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    Thanks for the wishes, it's appreciated. Mrs D has been moved forward to Monday for her Chemo so the 2nd round will start just before Christmas, (they did it so she doesn't have to go in over Christmas). I told her I'll be buying her a nice woolly hat.
     
  10. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Hope it goes well Diamond.
     
  11. hornmeister

    hornmeister Administrator Staff Member

    So 3 households for a few days over Xmas. Is that households or Bubbles?
     
  12. hornmeister

    hornmeister Administrator Staff Member

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52637354

    Yes a support bubble is counted as a household for xmas purposes.
     
  13. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc Squad Player

    I dread to think of all the arguements with teenagers and early 20s people at home who haven't seen their partners for weeks/months now being told they need be in a Christmas bubble with their vulnerable grandparents and uncle they only see annually for 5 days of charades and family friendly TV specials.
     
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  14. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Quite - they’d probably rather have a party at New Year’s with their mates.
     
  15. hornmeister

    hornmeister Administrator Staff Member

    If they're anything like the teenagers round my way they've been congregating in large groups with complete disregard for the guidance Since march.
     
  16. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc Squad Player

    I think that's partly confirmation bias.

    Teenagers just have more friends and can't go to pubs or friends houses so have to wander around
     
  17. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    To be fair to the teens, it’s pretty harsh to say to them you can all congregate together at school or college but the moment you leave the school gates you can’t mix anymore. My 16 yr old stuck rigidly to the rules during the first lockdown but, during this one, has been meeting friends at the weekend. They have been meeting outside only, though, and haven’t been going to one another’s houses. I don’t really have a problem with this.
     
  18. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    I think it is about acknowledging that teens have to get educated and you can't stop them mixing in a classroom environment in a practical and useful way. Whereas they can stay apart in school holidays and so they could keep contact to a minimum so keeping the risk of spreading the virus to a minimum.

    Nothing harsh about that in my opinion when everyone else is expected to socially distance, where masks, etc, unless of course some individuals have genuine isolation issues that mean that being able to stay in constant contact via mobiles and social media is insufficient.

    But, with any luck and high compliance with the guidelines, we'll be through this within months, and they will have plenty of time to catch up.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2020
  19. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I'll be breaking rules this Christmas. 3 households will be meeting up from beyond the 27 Dec cut off date.

    If I was 18 I would have not followed the rules. No doubt about it.
     
  20. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    The number of instances of year groups being sent home or classes is very large where I work ( when allowed).
    The Borough of Broxbourne is the smallest council in the land but has a high number of schools and especially secondary schools.
    It had a very low number of cases before the return of schools. It is now a lot higher than the national average.
    Almost certainly another lockdown you would imagine for January.
     
  21. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    I don’t really see the harm in a few teens meeting up outside at the weekend, when they’re already mixing inside 5 days a week. The ones I know wear masks when they are on the train or in shops, etc. They are not having parties inside, nor are they meeting up in huge groups.
     
  22. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    We’ve had a cluster of cases in the sixth form of my younger daughter’s school, where they’ve been back full time since September with no social distancing within year groups. Interestingly, there have been far fewer cases at my older daughter’s sixth form college, despite the larger numbers there - possibly because they’ve adopted the approach of blended learning and have the kids socially distanced in the classroom. No schools or colleges locally are sending whole year groups home, though - they’re all using the close contacts guidance (for example, 37 kids were sent home to isolate after 1 positive case in the L6 but no one needed to isolate after a positive case in the 4th year, as the child had been off school with a cold for a few days before covid symptoms revealed themselves).
     

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