(HC) Xisco Munoz

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by The Recluse, Dec 18, 2020.

  1. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    I agree but don't forget we have two matches over the Easter weekend, I would expect a small amount of rotation between the Sheffield and Boro matches.
     
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  2. wingco

    wingco First Year Pro

    It does surprise me just how little credit he's given on here.

    Before he arrived I thought Chalobah was for the scrap heap and Sierallta would be back playing in the Chilean Primera B within 6 months.

    Win the next two and he's got a 70% win rate which is close to his farmer's league record
     
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  3. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Munoz P 18 W13 D 2 L 3 F 32 A 11 Pts 41 Gd +21

    Ivic P 20 W 9 D 7 L 4 F 23 A 16 Pts 34 Gd +7

    Wow.......what an incredible job he's doing.
     
  4. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    It is and he's making alot us eat our words, especially me. Long may it last.
     
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  5. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Shh, you're not allowed to say that until we get promoted, apparently
     
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  6. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    I was a bit surprised when Leicester were interested in Chalobah in the window, but he really is looking a class act and would walk into quite a few PL teams
     
  7. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I’ll be sad for at least 5 minutes when he’s sacked in the summer.
     
  8. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Don't know if it's coming from him or someone he's brought with him but the increased variation in our set pieces is a massive tick in the box. We have different signals for different set pieces and we clearly have a few routines up our sleeve. The movement today to get Chalobah free at the back post was brilliant, as was the first half routine that got Masina free. I don't care if things don't always come off - it's so refreshing not to see every corner hit flat to the near post area.
     
  9. RS2

    RS2 First Year Pro

    Another game ticked off before we can say goodbye to this loser.
     
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  10. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

    Those draws and losses under Ivic is what’s killed us this season.

    0-0 at home to Sheff Weds
    1-1 at home to Bmuff (not great but acceptable)
    1-1 away to Wycombe
    1-1 away to QPR
    0-0 away to Bristol City
    0-0 away to Forest
    1-1 at home to Brentford*

    1-0 away to Reading
    1-0 away to Barnsley
    1-0 at home to Cardiff
    2-0 away to Huddersfield

    *first half we were atrocious. 2nd half we battered them, and would have won had it not been for a shocking offside decision.

    When you look at most of the games we lost and drew under him, it really is poor.

    Most of those are games that we should have won. Had we been playing 433 from the beginning, like every fan said, no doubt we would be top, most likely automatic promotion already clinched, or on the verge of being clinched.

    Xisco has done a great job. Granted I’ve been extremely negative towards and wanted him sacked! He has now proven wrong.

    As the team is improving game by game, so is he. His tactical substitutions are far more effective now and I have to give credit where credit is due.

    Obviously the next 8 games are huge.

    I’m glad we’re coming back after the break to a home game against Sheff Weds. That really should be 3 points, with then 7 games to go.

    If we get promoted and take this team chemistry into the Prem, adding the right players along the way, we could be in for another decent stay in the Prem.
     
  11. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Don't disagree with the thought but playing this particular 4-3-3 wasn't available to Ivic. He had no left back and no Hughes. If he had, I'm sure we'd have played that formation from the start of the season, it's why he kept mentioning the left back situation in every press conference.

    We'll never know but had Masina not got injured against Scunthorpe, suspect we'd have started the season 4-3-3 with Garner attempting the Hughes role. There was a long period with both Deeney and Gray injured so likely the front three would've been the same.
     
  12. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I think a lot of people on here are unfair on Ivic, because as you say SLB, Vlads options were a lot less than The Kids have been. Personally I think Vlad did a bloody good job with the limitations he had to operate under and I doubt The Kid could have done the same.

    Having said all that I have to admit that Vlads tactics were very drab to watch, although in the main they were also very effective. Furthermore The Kid has definitely brought a feel good factor to the team and has improved with his tactics in recent weeks.

    All in all as I have said before I think both managers deserve praise for their contributions to the team and maybe had they been together as a managerial unit from the start we might have already achieved promotion by now.
     
  13. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Vlad was extremely cautious at times, QPR away springs to mind, but judging by his angry reaction at home to Rotherham when the players coasted in the second half rather than go for the jugular, I definitely don't think he's naturally ultra-defensive. I still like him, and would have been interested to see what he could make out of this current set-up, but I can't deny that the players seem to like Xisco's cheerier approach than Vlad's disciplinarian ways
     
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  14. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Not that I'm overly bothered at this stage given that Hughes, Gosling and Sanchez have all come in and done as good if not better than him, but I wonder if that sort of set-up would have suited Garner better than a 2 man midfield
     
  15. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Sheffield Wednesday away wasn't *that* bad, first half when Murray was just looking completely out of place, sure, but Perica came on and looked a threat. Bournemouth maybe we could have gone for it a bit more at 1-0 but we still had enough chances to kill the game off. Reading we started off relatively brightly, but TDB went off and then they scored and we just looked utterly toothless after that, think that was more a personnel issue as Hughes was out. Barnsley I don't think we had a shot on target, Sarr had his man on toast but just couldn't put that final ball in. Forest and particularly Bristol City away I can kind of understand the tentativeness seeing as we had players missing out because of Covid at short notice. Not going to even try to defend the others, they were awful
     
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  16. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Just a small correction, as you probably are aware, Sheff Weds was away.

    On to the point over Ivic. He was far too cautious and that performance at Huddersfield told me the players didn't want to play for him anymore and engineered the defeat. By then he had to go. But, would we have gone on to do what Munoz has done under Ivic? It's highly unlikely, as the moral was far too low and the rot had set in.

    Ivic didn't have Hughes available to him, so that is a mitigating factor, but he did have Sierralta and didn't use him. The team has evolved over the season, but I do think Munoz got a bit lucky. He was standing on the edge of the sack himself and had we lost the Bristol City game, he would have surely gone also. The fact we won 6-0 and haven't looked back since makes that thought look ridiculous now, but I do feel things fell into place for Munoz but to his credit he recognised what was working and left it alone.

    This is where Munoz has done well. He's kept faith in something that is working. Ivic would never have done that. He was far too protective of player's health. He made them out to be so fragile. No way would he have put a settled side through the grueling run Munoz has. Plus Munoz has improved on the job. His handling of the squad has been brilliant. No coach can win 9 out of 10 matches if there is not unity and harmony within the squad.

    I'm a big fan of Deeney, but even I have to concede we've looked better without his influence, although I do stand by Bournemouth away as being his type of game and he would have been very useful on that occasion.

    The Pozzo's have made far too many mistakes over the past couple of years, but right now, it's going very well. How they come across this formula is not the way I would have gone about it, but if it pays off then who's to say they were wrong. But we have to wait until the end of the season in order to judge how they've handled this season. It's only justified if we go up.
     
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  17. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Can't really disagree with any of your post.

    I wasn't happy at all with the Xisco appointment and agree he probably would of gone if we hadn't won the Bristol City game. But he's making me eat my words and I'm extremely happy with this and I'm enjoying watching us again.

    DeeKnee being injured, the change in formation is all there for everyone to see. Apart from the Muff game which we mishandled it's been a remarkable turnaround and Xisco and the staff have massive credit for this.

    Even when we were not at our best yesterday we dug in and secured a good result, we could and really should of had a couple more goals too.

    A good time for a break now to recover and really have a go at the final 8 games.
     
  18. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    I wonder if that'll actually help us in the run-in? We only had a handful of players who were definite starters when fit under Ivic, I wonder if the likes of Chalobah and JP being rotated, and Sierralta hardly being used will help us?
     
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