Strange. Ivic had a decent pedigree and was giving a 1 year deal. Man with very few qualification for the job given a 2.5 year deal. Not that I’m complaining in hindsight on the Ivic front. It is odd though unless Munoz is on absolute peanuts. Or they just see him as a puppet to be controlled.
The point is they deemed a much better qualified candidate in Ivic worthy of a 1 year contract. Which in retrospect is great but that’s just results based thinking.
Strange wording although they didn't include the question so no idea exactly what he's been asked. Sounds to me like a contract to the end of the season with an option for two more years possibly?
Wouldn't surprise me if we achieved promotion Xisco stepped into an assistant role with a more experienced man coming in (Quique part 3, anyone?). If he's up for that, of course.
No, for the reasons given above. For the same reason that I have a company property lease that runs another 2.5 years. However we will leave with no cost in 0.5 yrs as we have an option to break the contract at that point. There is no way this guy has signed a 2.5 year contract without Gino having break clauses at our option. Ideally we can exit him at the end of the season if he fails (or if we just choose to, eg Joka) but if he’s a success and someone wants to pinch him we can demand compensation based on the 2 years contract to run. In Gino we trust.
I suspect he'd rather we hired him s more experienced assistant. I did think we might have got an English assistant manager in when he arrived as we've done before.
If we get promoted , I’d be very surprised if Xisco was manager for next season . And if we don’t get promoted Is be very surprised if he’s manager next season. So probably his best chance of staying in a job is some kind of assistant role , if the new guy was up for that .
Not sure how many managers ever want to revert to being a number 2.... Brian Kidd? Can't think of any others.
Was it really? Seems an illogical thing for Ivic to do given our reputation for firing more managers than anyone else, and the upheaval at the club at the time he joined. It would just be burning money. 5% chance of Ivic shooting the lights out to the extent he gets the Everton/West Ham job the following summer. Verses 95% he falls out with our rotten players or Pozzo tins him after getting promoted anyway! And even in the 5% scenario a suitor may be able to negotiate a compensation deal.
Why would a manager do that though. The 2.5 is worthless on his side but can prevent him moving to a better club. Given his CV perhaps a take it or leave it offer.
I might be wrong but I thought he asked for a year with the possibility of extended it to a second year
The chance to work with the Pozzos It's worth something as it means as long as the owners don't press the button at a couple of pre-determined points he'd be secure in the intervening periods. There's no way they have given him a fixed 2.5 year deal. Unless he's on YTS wages....
Yeah true. So probably unlikely he ll be manager next season , not that it’s a bold statement to say that , I think we d be surprised if he lasted that long . Either way he deserves our support while he has a chance to prove himself .
Yes but it was Jackett's first job and did go on to manage other clubs afterwards. Steve Harrison I don't think managed again after us, although he admitted that he hated it and enjoyed being a coach more.
True but was just pointing out that one of our own was happy to go back to being a #2 at this very club. He was also a #2 at QPR under Holloway and at Man City but has of course reverted to #1 at a number of clubs. So you never know, maybe Munoz would too in the prem under an experienced #1 that he respected.
There are quite a few when you start looking. Our own Ray Lewington, for example, has only been an assistant since leaving Watford. A couple of others off the top of my head are Alan Knill at Sheffield U, who managed in the lower divisions, and Paul Trollope at Forest.
Glowing tribute from Cleverley about Munoz. Tom Cleverley wants Watford to 'right the wrongs' of last season | Watford Observer Of course you have to read between the lines in these type of interviews, as he's hardly going to slaughter the guy, but you can see he's clearly been impressed with him. I don't recall reading too many positive interviews from players when Ivic was in charge. Cleverley, himself, also comes across very well and one of the few senior players who wanted to stay and help Watford get back to the top flight. You've got to respect players like this.
I think this is the first time I've ever seen a player say that he thinks the incoming manager is great. As Manatleaisure has shown above, Tom is usually very very guarded about whether he supports a new appointment or not. Can't wait to read what he thinks about the next guy coming in to replace Munoz in March. Tis' the start of a new era indeed.
Ha ha.....yes...I thought I'd seen that interview somewhere before. Players tend to be a bit rooted in their phrases, however, reading that article, I think he's more alluding to the younger players that looked like being around at the time like Estupinan, Suarez & Dele-Bashiru. Two have since left and one is long term injured. Also using Wilmot, Quina, Pedro more along with Sarr. It probably looked a more youthful and exciting set-up at that moment in time. I think he was praising the attitude and enthusiasm of the younger players, rather than fulsome praise of Ivic.
He needs to specify which type of animal. Maybe that's the issue. So far we have been fighting like these killer chicks.
Footballers must get asked so many pointless questions so it’s no wonder they sound so dull . Unless Xisco decides to ban countdown Cleverley isn’t going to say a bad word is he ..?
