You've got to question his captaincy as well. He never seems an inspirational leader, but loves to act like the big man. That doesn't seem to have worked with Andre Gray as he's another Birmingham big man. Do you think any of the united players 15 years ago would have had the balls to have a lockdown birthday party, invite the rest of the team during a relegation battle after Roy Keane had been in the press talking about the health risks to his son? We have had some very talented players, and repeated managers have failed to get them to consistantly play at their potential. Deeney has been Captain through all of that. But then just like taking him out the 11, if he left who would replace him as captain who would improve it? Cathcart?