Who Stays, Who Goes?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by YellowKicks, Jul 17, 2020.

  1. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    People have wildly optimistic ideas of who would play in the Championship imo. When relegation’s confirmed I’m planning on starting a thread where we all have a guess at who’s in and who’s out. I’ll tot up the points when the window closes and we can see who was most accurate.
     
  2. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Anyone thinking Deulofeu, regardless of his injury, will kick a ball in the Championship is insane.
     
  3. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Ordinarily I'd agree, although there's a month between seasons pretty much, not much time to plan for the new season
     
  4. Watfordftw

    Watfordftw Reservist

    Worst part is I can see us starting the first game of next season with more or less the same defence.
     
  5. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Yep. A horrific thought.
     
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  6. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Agree. No loan offered or no takers though?
     
  7. He's never going to get picked so I guess his attitude is why bother
     
  8. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    I think unfortunately most will stay as no one will want them. I can see Sarr and Hughes being sold as they are PL quality. We may see a couple of players go to Udinese, Pereyra maybe. I don’t see Cucho or Suraez joining, they won’t want to drop down. Maybe someone will come in with a low offer for Doucoure, and I wouldn’t be disappointed to see him go. I would think Delefeou will be there for the start of the season, given his injury- but likely he will go at the first opportunity. The only hope for next year is some of the fringe players are given an opportunity. Pusetto, Pedro, Quina and maybe 1 or 2 players from Udinese. I can see us struggling in the Championship as we won’t have long to rebuild
     
  9. Suarez won't be dropping down he's playing in the Spanish 2nd divsion. Where does this myth he's tearing up La Liga continually come from?
     
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  10. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Pretty sure I read he doesn’t want to come if we are relegated. It’s entirely possible I am making it up, but I think there will be clubs prepared to buy him, and we won’t be in a financial position to turn money away
     
  11. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    The New brothers are exciting. But Chalobah and Quina? No evidence that they are any more signed up to fighting for the team than older players who routinely get criticised.
     
  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    At best they will be sent on loan again in the hope we come back up should relegation happen.
     
  13. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Based on our record with knee injuries he'll have a set back and be out for even longer or come back half fit like Troy .
     
  14. Neither has been given a run in the team so I don't think we can say either way
     
  15. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Depends on whether the owners believe we can bounce-back.
    I think Pererya, Doucoure and Delia are the only 'dead certs' to leave. Hughes, Capoue and Suarez are probable. As others have pointed out, will they let Sarr go on the cheap? He must have a few years left on his contract? Maybe I'm clutching at straws.
     
  16. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Probably because neither of them, particularly Quina, have been given any sort of a chance to provide any evidence.

    Also see Pussetto, Pedro, Penaranda.
     
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  17. We hate 48

    We hate 48 Reservist

    Takes money sent to Udinese since being in PL to £33m
     
  18. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Love Pozzo. Legend.

    That being said, I actually think Pussetto has something to offer. Unfortunately Pearson/Giraldi/Pozzo or whatever c**t actually picks the team seemingly only has 11 players they're prepared to use unless there's injuries.
     
  19. If we end up with a manager willing to experiment with youth there are some interesting 433 4231 formation combinations worth trying from Capoue, Chalobah, Dele Bashiru, Quina, Whelan, Pendaranda, Pussetto, Sema, Pedro, Suarez, Cucho, Cassidy, Lo Everton, Dalby... the defensive options need a lot of work though

    Pussetto Penaranda Pedro
    ...............Suarez.................

    might be interesting

    (assumes Hughes, Sarr, Del, Doucs, Pereyra, Welbeck leave in a £100M fire sale, and someone has the balls not to rebuild around chubby)
     
  20. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    That's 1 game.
     
  21. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    The team deteriorated for the last 3 years yet last season was the most successful ever
     
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  22. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Nobody has played Quina or Peneranda very much but they’ve all seen them in training.
     
  23. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    And we've all seen the repeat, gutless, useless matchday performances from the usual suspects that they could potentially replace. It's a subject we could go around and around on, but no one will ever convince me that we are doing the right thing by refusing to try new things/players and persisting with players who are proven, consistent failures and awful performers in actual competitive matches.
     
  24. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

  25. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    You mean Giraldi has.
     
  26. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I agree that we need to change things but the fact nobody picks would concern me. Pedro, albeit in a different position seems to be making his way in to the reckoning. Sadly full backs we seem to be struggling but I would play Holebas over Masina who I think is bobbins.
     
  27. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    How stays and who goes?

    It all depends on which league we'll be in next season.

    Premier League:
    The squad we have now, plus new central striker, 2 x central defenders, back up keeper, Estupinan, Suarez & Cucho.
    To lose Pereyra, Gray, Sinclair, Success, Cleverley, Mariappa, Gomes, Holebas

    Championship:
    Squad we have now minus Deulofeu, Pererya, Sarr, Doucoure, Hughes, Suarez, Estupinan. I think we'll retain the rest though, including Cucho, Welbeck and Capoue.
     
  28. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    That is 4 times I have heard pundits criticising our full backs.

    I wonder if the powers that be at our club agree ?

    Otherwise we'll be in the same mess next season unless there is improvement in that area and defence generally.
     
  29. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I absolutely can’t stand your views and you have made quite clear what you think of me. Your views on the club are obviously wrong, but shall we save time by not going at it again?
     
  30. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Haha Jumbolina having them "if you don't agree with me then you're wrong" moments again. :D
     
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  31. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Not sure who would buy Hughes tbh. He's been efficient enough for us but we are a poor side. He can't go past a player, not pacey, and he can't shoot.
    Maybe Brighton might give him a chance or whoever survives might want him at a guess but struggling to see who else would tbh.
     
  32. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Absolutely, nobody wants to read the usual rubbish you put on here but I’m sure you’ll repeat again. By the way I have never stated my views are correct, they are my views which is an opinion. I don’t tell people what to think like you seem to but hey ho let’s leave it there
     
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  33. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Sounds good. The “rubbish” was correct though my happy friend.
     
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  34. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I know it hurts that me, Nath, GD and Moog were correct but ultimately you have to suck it up.
     
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  35. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Why has no one mentioned Janmaat?
     

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