Who Stays, Who Goes?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by YellowKicks, Jul 17, 2020.

  1. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Reservist

    It's done, we're going down and to be honest I can't say i'm devastated. Prem as a fan has mostly been ****.

    But who stays?

    From the current lot: I'd only really want to keep Chalobah, Hughes, Sarr, Pedro, Capoue, Quina. Can we keep any of these? Geri, Doucoure, are assumed gone.

    Loanees: Cucho, Suarez, Pervis, Wilmot would all be great at Championship level and arguably should have been here this year. Can we keep any?

    Manager quite obviously has to change.
     
  2. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Bin:

    Femenia, Mariappa, Masina, Deeney, Foster, Pereyra, Holebas, Peñaranda, Cleverley, Gomes, Gray.

    May add to this list tomorrow.
     
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  3. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Reservist

    **** me, we own so much ****.
     
  4. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I think my contract is up. It’s been a good run and I’ve earned my testimonial, but I keep hearing about this Leads thing on the news and reckon that’s the place to be.
     
  5. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Hughes
    Sarr
    Penaranda
    Suarez
    Cucho
    Estupinan
    Wilmot
    Quina
    Joao Pedro

    Basis for a decent side. The rest can **** off. No more past-it never weres. I'd rather be midtable Championship with a group of young players that care than in the PL with this mob.
     
  6. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Genuinely barely a player other than maybe Hughes, who is one of the only ones who's looked interested, and Deulofeu and Sarr who are both far too good and will be buzzing to get the f**k out of this **** show, and the youngsters who are wasting their careers here, that I'd choose to keep.

    I despise the lot of them. None of them are fit to wear the shirt. Spineless mercenaries, most of which don't even have any redeeming qualities as footballers.
     
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  7. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    The fans as usual. Maybe get Bielsa to manage us. He won't take any **** from fatty Filippo. Probably deck him at the training ground and resign.
     
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  8. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    You say that...
     
  9. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I'm certain everyone on that list except Wilmot won't be with us next season. They're the only players I'd keep and they'll all either choose to get out to go and play for proper clubs at a higher level (Sarr, Suarez, Cucho, Estupinan), or continue to be treated like s**t in favour of playing the likes of Andre f**king Gray (Pedro, Penaranda etc).
     
  10. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    Disagree with the ones in Bold. Chalobah is half the player he was, and Quina couldn't give a crap - showed as much by breaking lockdown rules and making himself unavailable. Don't ever want to see him and Gray in the shirt again.
     
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  11. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Anyway, the answer is Deeney. Build a team around him.
     
  12. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Absolutely this. Chalobah has really disappointed and Quina has done nothing to impress or suggest he’s any good.
     
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  13. Scott no save Loach

    Scott no save Loach Academy Graduate

    Keep Hughes, everyone else can **** off.
     
  14. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    Pretty much this. Bin em all keep Hughes and the younger ones like Pedro.

    Not sure on his contract, but if it's a year would keep Troy then let him go on a free to Birmingham - or even see if Birmingham want him on a free. He's done enough for the club over the years to end his career at his boyhood club
     
  15. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Would bin them all off and start again.

    The only player i'd want to stay is Hughes and there's no way he will stay, he's far too good for the Championship and will end up at a Leeds or Brighton or someone.

    Sarr, Doucoure, Deulofeu, Capoue & Pereyra sales needed to clear massive debts and we will rely on players from Udinese's stiffs again like we did when Pozzo first arrived.

    Really hope we can keep hold of our top young talent (Sarr excluded as he will be off) like Quina (absolutely disgraceful he has barely featured), Wilmot, Pedro (ditto Quina) & Penaranda. However, if they had any sense they'd instruct their agents to play for a club that actually wants to develop them!

    Genuinely don't know who will be here next season, but got no doubt we will see the same old tired sh*t we've had to endure this year (Foster, Deeney, Holebas, Dawson, Gray, Mariappa etc).

    I actually hate this club.
     
  16. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Quina came in last season and did do well. We were raving about him. He got injured and that was it. Never to be seen again.

    I truly believe Giraldi just can't be bothered with the young players. If we can't loan them out and make them someone else's problem, then **** them. They aren't going to get a chance in the team ahead of the big earners and sorry, a season of doing nothing.

    This is partially proven by Pearson coming in and saying that Quina wasn't fit enough to play.

    No wonder he went to a party. He isn't going to be involved anyway so why not?
     
  17. Pretty sure we will get good offers for and sell Hughes, Sarr, Doucs, Pereyra and Del

    From what's left I would find a Zola type manager and build a side something like...

    .....................Dahlberg.......................
    ..New.....Wilmot....New...Estupinan..
    ............Capoue............Chalobah.......
    ......New......Quina maybe....Pedro....
    ........................Suarez........................
     
  18. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    What I truly find mind boggling is the decision making process by the management in deciding that players who are contracted to this club but not given a single chance are somehow worse options than proven, laughable s**te like Andre Gray.

    Don't give me this "young and not ready" bulls**t. There is absolute NO WAY the likes of Pedro could do worse than Gray. There is NO WAY that Quina could be less effective than Cleverley. There is NO WAY that Wilmot would have been a worse option than Mariappa.

    We continue to let these repeat offending, utter c**ts perform horrifically over and over and over again whilst sticking our middle finger up to young players who may well give us something if they're giving a f**king chance. It's beyond a joke.
     
  19. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    **** 4-2-3-1. Sick of it.
     
  20. It's not the formation that's the problem
     
  21. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Reservist

    It is far from over yet because we are not even in the relegation zone yet and there are only two games left
     
  22. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    It's alright, we'll win the next game.
     
  23. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Estupinan has been an absolute star in La Liga. He will not be here next season, neither will Suarez. The right back slot will be filled by the f**king embarrassment that is Femenia or serial crock Janmaat, Dawson/Cathcart/Mariappa will continue at centre back, with Deeney and Gray continuing to steal a living up front.

    It's all so inevitable that we will only continue on the downward trend we are on and persist with these absolute w**kers we're lumbered with.
     
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  24. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    It's not over until Villa or Bournemouth say it is.
     
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  25. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Reservist

    Well if the others lose and they would-be favourites to, does it matter?
     
  26. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky First Year Pro

    Of the ones who play I'd keep Hughes, Sarr (but he'll be sold cheaply) Gerry (but how will his injury affect him)

    Difficult to say with the fringe players because we NEVER GET TO SEE THEM!

    get rid of Success, Femenia, Mariappa, Janmaat Masina, Deeney, Foster, , Holebas, Cleverley, Gomes, Gray, Capoue, Pereyra
     
  27. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yup. Never before has something that’s been completely in our hands actually been totally in the hands of others.
     
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  28. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    That's what we said the other day, me included.

    Since then Villa have picked up 4 points and Bournemouth 3. We had to at least take a point tonight but the shirkers bottled it completely, and now we are f**ked.
     
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  29. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Exactly. No doubt the squad share this attitude.
     
  30. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    It is reassuring to have the old Nath back. One bright spot from tonight.
     
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  31. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    At least I can say I tried. Unlike our football team.
     
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  32. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Build the team around a spine of Foster, Mariappa, Dawson, Cleverley, Deeney, Gray

    100 point season incoming!
     
  33. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    There was a moment where we thought we’d lost him. All I can say is it’s good to see the team can come together and make Nath miserable again.
     
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  34. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I genuinely think I was better at 15 playing at county level for school than Andre Gray is now. I'm honestly not joking either.
     
  35. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Reservist

    Well a point would have been better of course but a thread saying it's over with two games to go three points ahead and better goal difference is premature in my own opinion.
     

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