Who Stays And Who Goes?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Hogg-DEENEY!!!, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Yes. 4 year contracts all round. Good insurance policy....
     
  2. Goldenorn

    Goldenorn Academy Graduate

    I genuinely believe we would only lose Doucoure & Pereyra if we went down. Deulofeu would have left, but doubt it now, not until Jan at least.

    Sarr might leave, but I would expect that we would want to be doubling our money for him at least, and he hasn't had enough of a chance for people to pay that sort of money yet.

    Wouldn't be the end of the world to see some more leave, with players like Quina, Pedro, Dele-Bashiru, Wilmot and potentially the likes of Cucho and Suarez coming in. These young talented players, with the experience of the likes of Deeney, Cathcart, Foster (Hopefully) I don't think we would struggle to field a strong side capable of winning the championship.
     
  3. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    This. We would only be in real trouble if we failed to get promoted in 2020/21 imo.
     
  4. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Doucoure and Pereyra would go. Delefeo would as well under normal circumstances but with the injury not sure.

    Sarr could go to a big club for BIG money.
     
  5. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Pereyra is probably a bit gutted he might have to hang around a bit longer.
     
  6. reids

    reids Squad Player

    According to the leaked report in the press the other day, the highest-paid player in the Championship is on 68k a week. We currently have Sarr, Deeney, Gray and Doucoure that are above that mark. We are not rich, no way will we only sell Doucs + Bobby if we were to go down.
     
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  7. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Gray!
     
  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Reported to be on 70k a week ..

    :rolleyes:o_O
     
  9. Agree. All 4 would go and GD in Jan if he's fit.
    New 5 year deal for Mariappa.
     
  10. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki First Year Pro

    Again, Maricrappa has to go. Before the Coronavirus outbreak, l felt he had played his last game for Watford.
    Pearson has seen enough of him.
    The Brighton own goal summed it all up.
    Great guy for the community, but a poor player on the pitch.
     
  11. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki First Year Pro

    Not for nothing.
    We paid a £5 million signing on bonus to him in compensation for a pay for play deal.
    I understand it is £25k a week basic, £50k if he plays and £75 if he plays and scores.
    So, not bad money for a player who has spent more time off the pitch than on it.
     
  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Well I suppose Pereyra won't be happy he had to stick around for an unlimited amount of time..

    Also do we stll have Success here till 2023 or Gray on 70k?

    "Maricrappa" will be the least of our problems.

    Least he still wants to be here .. even our "new signing" doesn't want to be !
     
  13. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    We shouldn't be in a hurry to get rid of strikers. Troy Deeney 32 next month isn't getting any younger.
     
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  14. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    True but we do need new ones !

    Maybe Pedro is the answer?
     
  15. It will be an interesting dilemna. The subset of "Those who want to stay" and "Those we would like to stay" may be very very small.
    If we do go down I quite like the idea of playing TD and a nippy striker (a "Vydra" if you will). Not sure Pedro will still be here. Success will still be here but won't get a game, being below the standard required for the champ and "unsellable". Probably Deeney & Gray upfront and they may score a few goals, .......or rather Gray might.

    My guess is that the team may look something like this;

    Bachmann
    ?, ?, Mariappa, ?
    ?, Hughes, ?, ?
    Deeney, Gray
     
  16. DrewH

    DrewH Administrator Staff Member

    The Athletic suggests Foster is likely to extend his contract for another two years if we stay up (Nice's Walter Benitez has been watched as a possible replacement). Gomes could be kept on again, with the deciding factor being how he feels physically & mentally.

    Likewise Mariappa could also get a new one-year deal. Very much depends on whether the club feel we'll have enough cover without him, and whether we are able to sign a 'starting centre-back' which again will be a priority. Holebas is unlikely to be kept on whilst Wilmot is eager to return and be given the chance to impress.

    Leventhal also understands Estupinan, along with Suarez and Cucho, will be brought into the squad for pre-season - whenever that will be. No major squad overhaul to happen, Doucoure the most likely to be sold out of the saleable assets we have.
     
  17. AngelHornet

    AngelHornet Reservist

    Not many (if any) will now want to splash the cash on what we want for Doucoure .
    Nothing on selling Pereyra then?
     
  18. Free transfer.
     
  19. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    He's contracted until summer 2021.
     
  20. Yes but I'm jesting that he's now so poor and uncommitted that his value has gone and we will give him away to get his salary off the books.
     
  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    So much crammed into your two words - I didn't stand a chance! :D
     
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  23. DrewH

    DrewH Administrator Staff Member

    Nope. I'd imagine If Pereyra still wants a return to Italy, and with Walt no longer at Torino, he could go back to Udinese as De Paul's replacement.
     
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  24. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    It's done, we're going down and to be honest I can't say i'm devastated. Prem as a fan has mostly been ****.

    But who stays?

    From the current lot: I'd only really want to keep Chalobah, Hughes, Sarr, Pedro, Capoue, Quina. Can we keep any of these? Geri, Doucoure, are assumed gone.

    Loanees: Cucho, Suarez, Pervis, Wilmot would all be great at Championship level and arguably should have been here this year. Can we keep any?

    Manager quite obviously has to change.
     
  25. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Bin:

    Femenia, Mariappa, Masina, Deeney, Foster, Pereyra, Holebas, Peñaranda, Cleverley, Gomes, Gray.

    May add to this list tomorrow.
     
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  26. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    **** me, we own so much ****.
     
  27. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I think my contract is up. It’s been a good run and I’ve earned my testimonial, but I keep hearing about this Leads thing on the news and reckon that’s the place to be.
     
  28. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Hughes
    Sarr
    Penaranda
    Suarez
    Cucho
    Estupinan
    Wilmot
    Quina
    Joao Pedro

    Basis for a decent side. The rest can **** off. No more past-it never weres. I'd rather be midtable Championship with a group of young players that care than in the PL with this mob.
     
  29. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Genuinely barely a player other than maybe Hughes, who is one of the only ones who's looked interested, and Deulofeu and Sarr who are both far too good and will be buzzing to get the f**k out of this **** show, and the youngsters who are wasting their careers here, that I'd choose to keep.

    I despise the lot of them. None of them are fit to wear the shirt. Spineless mercenaries, most of which don't even have any redeeming qualities as footballers.
     
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  30. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    The fans as usual. Maybe get Bielsa to manage us. He won't take any **** from fatty Filippo. Probably deck him at the training ground and resign.
     
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  31. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    You say that...
     
  32. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I'm certain everyone on that list except Wilmot won't be with us next season. They're the only players I'd keep and they'll all either choose to get out to go and play for proper clubs at a higher level (Sarr, Suarez, Cucho, Estupinan), or continue to be treated like s**t in favour of playing the likes of Andre f**king Gray (Pedro, Penaranda etc).
     
  33. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    Disagree with the ones in Bold. Chalobah is half the player he was, and Quina couldn't give a crap - showed as much by breaking lockdown rules and making himself unavailable. Don't ever want to see him and Gray in the shirt again.
     
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  34. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Anyway, the answer is Deeney. Build a team around him.
     
  35. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Absolutely this. Chalobah has really disappointed and Quina has done nothing to impress or suggest he’s any good.
     
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