What Next If The Season Gets Voided?

They've not been put in to quarantine - their tests would have come back negative so why would they need to be?

 

Slightly tangential, but children's playgrounds have already been open without restriction for a few days in Germany - there is zero social distancing going on amongst kids there. Healthy footballers should have little more risk to their health even if they contracted the virus than kids in a playground.

 

Yes, just to play devils advocate a bit, the mortality rate for under 30s sits at 0.03%, but that’s a number purely based on the testing that’s been done, so you may well be able to add an extra zero once we know the true number of asymptomatic cases.

 

I'd rather keep Muff in the Premier league than allow Leeds in.

 

I would assume that to make this as safe as it can be players & staff would need to effectively lockdown together and not be allowed home until the last game is played. Any players that need to go home for a family emergency etc, would need to be tested prior to being allowed back into the group. That said I am not convinced what they are looking at will be as secure as that, and therefore this will turn into a farce.

 

Except for Luton there is no other time I would like to see promoted less than Leeds. Horrible team, club and support

 

I agree

But itis safer in Germany than here by a factor of about 4!

 

Exactly - there is a world of difference between a league that started and finished with the same rules and conditions where one loathsome bunch won by being better over the season, than one where an end is contrived playing 60 minute long games in neutral grounds for a quarter of it

 

We all have to make sacrifices to stop evil winning.

 

The options are becoming clearer either the season is played out or the season is cancelled and promotion/ Relegation is based on sporting merit. There will not be a situation where the season is cancelled and there is no relegation. Even if the Premier League wanted to cancel the season and have no relegation, the FA have the power to over-rule the Premier League(this was something that was agreed when the PL was formed back in 91). The FA have confirmed they will absolutely block no relegation from the PL, but don’t think it will be necessary as that is the PL’s position

 

Source?

 

Why would the FA block relegation when the season can’t be concluded? Makes absolutely no sense. In fact it’s a massive contradiction, relegation/promotion based on sporting merit? You’d be achieving the exact opposite by deciding it on anything other than playing the actual games of football.

 

Where have The FA confirmed this officially?

All I can see is a click bait article on the Mail’s website that has no attributable sources or comments at all.

 

The most interesting part of that article is this bit, which should (but probably still won't) quieten the bunch of negative-nancies on here repeatedly banging on about how it would affect provisions for health workers:

"The league has taken further steps to enable the testing of players and staff for Covid-19. It is expected to agree a deal with a Hong Kong-based company, Prenetics, for the provision of 40,000 home testing kits.

The testing plan, still to be approved by clubs, would involve players and staff being tested twice a week during a three-week training period and the expected seven-week match schedule. Tests would be ordered centrally before being distributed to the clubs and the total cost is anticipated to reach £4m.

With a shortage of testing having been a consistent problem in the UK’s response to coronavirus, the league has said it would acquire tests only if it did not affect the needs of Public Health England and the NHS. With national capacity now regularly exceeding the number of tests carried out, this political concern is believed to have reduced. The league is also expecting to acquire personal protective equipment, primarily for staff running the testing sites."

 

Gee I'm shocked. Both at the Mail article not having any sources and drones taking it as fact.

 

So Sheffield play a weakened side (and wouldn’t be surprised if anybody out of danger and not pushing for Europe followed along the same lines) resulting in a very odd end of season where only 9 or 10 clubs are actually fielding decent squads. Of our remaining fixtures how many are against clubs who would give a toss ?

Hopefully by next Friday the PL will have agreed to cancel the league and we can all move on, I however fear that they will blindly stumble forward and plan to restart mid June.

 

Surely all tests have to be approved by PHE regardless? So why does it matter if they come from Hong Kong?

If there’s a national shortage or key workers still not getting tested, then if there are tests coming from Hong Kong that pass PHE safety standards, then the ethical questions of them going to footballers remains.

Just today we’ve seen that the 84 tonnes of PPE ordered from Turkey over 2 weeks ago has failed the safety standards.

You like to accuse others of going OTT and swearing/name-calling - but then call others ‘negative nancies’ for daring to question your stance and the things you say. All I’ve read are people saying tests shouldn’t go to players IF there’s a national shortage. The last paragraph you have posted says exactly the same. So you’re agreeing with the people you’re trying to go against?

But sod that. Who cares about health eh? It’s our game. VIVA FOOTBALL.

 

it’s in the Times. I trust them as a source - sorry can’t copy link. They have quoted the Founders members agreement clause 7.2.4 that says the FA can rule over promotion/relegation. The sources are unnamed that said there would be no relegation. But it did mention Rick Parry who was involved in setting up the original agreement, and his view is that this would be a breach of contract between the EFL and the PL.

 

The same Rick Parry who was involved in the agreement setting up parachute payments and just yesterday said they should now be abolished?

 

You can see what that might be sensible in ordinary circumstances, they don’t want the PL to have the ability to turn round and pull the drawbridge up. But these are extraordinary circumstances and you’d hope common sense would prevail. It’s a bit like the emergency powers the government passed, you wouldn’t want them to have them in ordinary circumstances, but everyone understands why they need them now.

 

The NHS have their own procurement department(s) and preferred suppliers - if they'd have wanted to purchase these items (or even still wanted to purchase them) then no doubt they could. For whatever reason they've decided not to. So there's nothing stopping the PL purchasing them privately themselves. Ethics doesn't come in to it.

Not sure how that's relevant. Though I'm having to bite my tongue.

I don't think that calling people who are simply acting like negative-nancies "negative-nancies" is being OTT. Nor is it a swear word. It's nothing to do with questioning my stance and the things I say either - people are perfectly capable of acting like negative-nancies completely independent of my own thoughts.

It depends on how you define "national shortage". Also, the point I've been making already in this thread, which people repeatedly overlook in their rush to demonise the PL and emphasise the tragic, is one which is roughly in line with the last sentence of that article (but is still at odds with the comments you reference which others have been making): namely that the the PL and government have repeatedly made it clear over the weeks that the PL won't go ahead if it will over-burden or take too much away from the health service. Despite this, some on here have been repeatedly yelling at the clouds that the PL shouldn't restart because it would over-burden or or take too much away from the health service; this is a completely redundant argument given that were it to appear to be the case then the PL wouldn't be allowed to restart anyway.

And right on cue, here you go - if it is deemed that there is too much of a risk to "health" then it won't restart. It's that simple. So you can stop getting yourself in to a lather about it.

On a side-note, do you empty your bowels every time you get in to a car? Or do you just avoid them in the name of "health"?

Or, do you think footballers should stop driving to matches and training?

 

Top work sir.

 

Someone I know who is extremely well placed in football and with the Premier League has said that there looks to be a very good chance of relegation being scrapped.

 

let’s face it scrapping relegation would be the best way of getting a majority to agree to restarting

As it stands 6 clubs would vote against restarting as they may get relegated , Everton will vote against it to stop Liverpool winning the title , remove the relegation threat and apart from common sense and decency why would they vote against restarting and meeting their tv contractual obligations.

 

This is the same FA that was happy to void all the non leagues below the National League including scrapping promotion and relegation

 

It's about raising the spirit of the nation isn't it? Football eh? Just make them all friendlies if that's the case.

Bloody love football me whatever the football. Make it 2 a side, penalties, heads and volleys, rush goalie, bloody all over it.

 

If there was a danger that by just touching my car, that I could die regardless of how safely I drive and arrive safely at my destination, yes I’d avoid it. If you’re trying to say that Coronavirus is as dangerous as driving a car, I think you know you’re being disingenuous.

 

While they may not die from it and for normal people the long term consequences are probably inconsequential ~ it is a respiratory condition and they are athletes. It could potentially be career ending if it reduces lung capacity etc.

We have no idea

 

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You've taken a step back from your robots and horses idea. I thought you were a progressive visionary. Maybe not.

 

It’s all about the money. Clubs like Villa will be blackmailed into voting for a continuation of the season otherwise they will be relegated. Most PL members will want a continuation of the season for the TV money. If relegation / promotion etc are removed as options the demand for watching goes down, because no-one cares. I think it’s going to get very messy

 

No I'm not - the chances of someone between the ages of 15-45 dying from coronavirus in the UK are very similar to, or even slightly higher than, a person in the UK dying in a car from a road traffic accident in any given year:

1 person per ~44,000 people aged 15-45 have died from coronavirus in the UK.

1 person per ~36,000 people will die from being in a car in a road traffic accident in any given year in the UK.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...eredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/latest

http://www.bandolier.org.uk/booth/Risk/trasnsportpop.html