Werewolf XVII - Day 4

Discussion in 'Old Games' started by Optimistichornet, Sep 1, 2016.

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  1. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I think it is highly unlikely that you made a comment on Ashton's flight, and then completely 'forgot’ a day later.

    Especially as there were a number of other questions posed to Ashton about how long baggage reclaim took.

    The question is, who are you defending?
     
  2. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Think what you want. I know I forgot. I've posted quite a lot and read quite a lot over the last day or two. Easy to forget what I have read and said.

    You're playing a good game though mate. Well done. I don't think people will vote you out so I think you might win this one.
     
  3. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    Harrow, I don't get the vote for Mike. Can you explain in full?
     
  4. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor


    Considering your early vote was because "I may not be online too much from midday", your reply was pretty quick.

    I do not believe that you would have forgotten your own post, or missed the later claims around baggage reclaim.

    Your post therefore was to highlight Ashton's post and divert attention away from Ashton. I do not know why this is, as the wolves do not know who each other are, but I find it suspicious. If you are evil, Ashton is certainly where I would focus next.

    You openly claim that you are voting for me as I have been quiet, despite others being more quiet than me (see above); a claim which you continuously ignore.

    I personally think that the early vote was actually a way of manipulating the vote, especially considering that you replied to my accusation within 10 minutes.

    I'm off to the pub now, and by that I mean I actually will respond intermittently (about every half an hour or so), rather than reply when anybody catches me being mis-truthful or claims I am evil.
     
  5. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Not wanting to nail my colours to the mast just yet, but I'm edging on going for Diamond as the only viable option where we have some reason.

    Mike and Harrow seem to be fighting a battle against each other for some reason but I can't see a cause for either to be honest. No one else has really deserved to be selected.

    Diamond has been viewed and at least by one said to be evil. Therefore we at least have a margin of basis for a decision on him and that's the only real information we have other than speculation about forgetting posts and generally weak arguments.

    This is my current thought. Happy for that to be changed.
     
  6. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    You're quite keen to put some attention on me with there being no real reason...?
     
  7. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I have been in and out of meetings, on conference calls and customer calls. I pop on here between each, mainly to get away from the stresses of work. I do not know when I will be next able to post again.

    Anyway, you are so so so defensive. It's unreal. The reason I have voted for you is that in the first couple of days you literally added nothing to discussion but stated the obvious and agreeing with the majority. It's what most wolves have done in the past, not post anything controversial and just tend to float along with the odd comment here and there. This is how I played as a wolf once and it worked well. Only when I have called you up on it have you started to post anything of any interest.

    I could be wrong, but that's my theory. Nobody else seems to have one.

    Off to another meeting now. Could be back in 10 minutes. Who knows.
     
  8. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    Have you noticed nobody else has come and and said they are the Guardian? If I was a wolf saying that then the real Guardian only has to say and you have a 50/50 shout at getting a bad guy, not a 2 in 5 shout.
     
  9. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    I'm just worried that by ignoring one true fact and arguing and bickering among themselves on baseless arguements, the others are all losing sight of actual factual evidence.

    We are gonna end up get a massive split and we could end up missing a wolf based on the bloody 4.45pm at Kempton.
     
  10. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Have I missed something? What factual evidence?
     
  11. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Sorry, factual evidence is the wrong thing to say. "A reason to suspect..." would be better based on the implicating message of day 3, and 352 swayed me further earlier with his reasoning. More of a reason to suspect than anyone else is throwing around at each other and at this rate we could oversee Diamond.

    I'm off in a bit and out beering so not gonna be a saddo on my phone all night while all my mates are having fun so will place my vote soon. Unless I get anything else, Diamond is my vote.
     
  12. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    The evidence is overwhelming that I'm good, yet despite the Seer, (HH), posts yesterday and myself outing myself today you STILL go for me. It can only lead to a single conclusion. Do you need further proof I'm the Guardian?
     
  13. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    If the guardian gets voted off today, we can only hope that the two wolves go to kill each other overnight. I assume the Alpha will stay alive but the back up one dies?
     
  14. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    But what about 352's theory? If anyone can really point me anywhere else then please do.
     
  15. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    Maybe look in the mirror.
     
  16. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Mike.

    Look back at his posts. Classic wolf tactics in the first two days, following like a sheep. Everything he said was utterly pointless and was the sort of thing previous wolves have done to divert attention from himself. Everyone else had been debating at least a little bit.

    He's only changed his style as I have been attacking him! Look also, how seems so intent at catching me out regarding my comments over Ashdon. I simply forgot that I had read, and even commented on Ashdon being away. He's clutching at straws there to somehow make both me and Ashdon sound suspicious as a result of what I said. Very defensive. I mean, why would I lie about forgetting? It actually has no baring on the game at all?

    In my experience of playing this game, he is the one acting most wolf like. This could be a mistake on my part, but I am merely basing my vote on experience.
     
  17. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    You sound like I did yesterday when I did this to HH. The early vote for Mike was silly.
     
  18. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I got it right yesterday (by not voting for HH). Should probably trust my judgement more than anyone elses...
     
  19. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Fair enough. As you said earlier, it is still a 50/50 vs a 60/40 decision so isn't that far fetched.
     
  20. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Admins note: the guardian cannot guard himself.
     
  21. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Oh wow, so that really does change things.

    If Diamond is telling the truth about being the guardian, then either way he will be killed tonight (and so nobody will be saved). Best case scenario, we have two days to pick out a wolf: first a 1/3 chance and then a 1/4 chance with no messages. Anything else and we lose.

    If others are correct and Diamond is evil, then we still have a (clever) guardian. We will have taken out a wolf and have the chance to save somebody tonight. With the guardian, we would potentially have up to 4(?) days to root out the wolf.

    Whilst I still maintain that Harrow is acting very suspiciously, I think that we have essentially lost the game if we do not kill Diamond tonight. Sorry Diamond, but I think I have to vote for you and I have to vote for you now. Voting for Harrow (the only other candidate IMO) is simply too risky.
     
  22. 352

    352 Moderator

    Meh is now also putting himself seriously in the frame, ironically enough this is because he's super keen to agree wth me on Diamond.

    I *think* the guardian/seer point has been proven as HH couldn't have protected anyone. But that just makes me confused as to why the hell Diamond would put himself and make himself a certain kill for the wolves tonight.

    I've not looked at who has voted who so far but Meh is my vote right now.

    Sorry for the lack of activity. I had a mad day at work and basically only just finished.
     
  23. 352

    352 Moderator

    Right, I'm going for meh. Screw it.
     
  24. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    Well it took a while but a Wolf has finally outed themselves. If I'm killed in the vote today then the game is effectively over. I thought I could guard myself and was going to hint that that's exactly what I intended to do, but wasn't actually going to. I'm going to vote for Mike now, (and I feel a bit silly for protecting him last night), as only a Wolf could vote for me.

    If any of you villagers want proof I'm the Guardian please read my early posts on day 1 carefully, you'll soon see.
     
  25. 352

    352 Moderator

    It's stuff like this that makes me really wary of you. Because that bit in bold just obviously isn't the case. Stating something as fact like that makes me really worry about you, even given everything else that's happened.
     
  26. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I genuinely have no idea if you are evil or not but statistically it makes more sense to go for you. That is it. The wolf is clearly very experienced as we have nothing else to go on.

    Today is entirely random. All I know is that Harrow randomly turned on me for no reason and so I was suspicious. You were too. You have now turned on me pretty fairy, considering you wish to twist my logic and stay in the game. You would do this if you were good or evil and I honestly do not know which one you are.

    I've tried to use logic and you instantly voted for me as your nearest candidate out of spite. At least challenge the logic rather than make unfounded accusations.
     
  27. 352

    352 Moderator

    This is perplexing. I've just read your posts from the first 5 or 6 pages of day one and I'm still none the wiser.
     
  28. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    If the Guardian is not Diamond, they would have said so themselves by now as we need clarification. Diamond, voting Mike is the best idea. Good stuff.
     
  29. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    From post 49 onwards take the first letter of each post.
     
  30. 352

    352 Moderator

    Fair enough. Not sure it's the best move to out yourself now though. Mike and Meh - the wolves?
     
  31. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    That's a very clever move.

    And maybe I am wrong. But the odds suggest, away from tricks, that I am doing what gives us the best odds of winning.

    But without being at my computer and having ample time, I have no idea if you've also also hidden the word 'seer' or 'second seer' somewhere in the threads also. I certainly would never have found that if I wasn't signposted to it's location.
     
  32. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    There's only Meh and you left to vote. I expect Meh to vote for me meaning it's all down to you 352. No pressure at all, but get it wrong and evil win.
     
  33. 352

    352 Moderator

    I voted Meh a while ago.
     
  34. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Sorry. Just off the tube after 2 hours!!! Diamomd could have left clues on purpose as the wolf. Means nothing. Diamond.
     
  35. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    I'm in a club from now so will have to check back later. Good luck good.
     
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