Watford Fc Vs Blackburn Rovers - 21/10/2020 - Ko 1945

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Smudger, Oct 17, 2020 at 8:25 PM.

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Who Will Win ?

This poll will close on Oct 20, 2020 at 8:25 PM.
  1. Watford by 3 goals or more

    5 vote(s)
    6.3%
  2. Watford by 2 goals or more

    14 vote(s)
    17.7%
  3. Watford by 1 goal

    41 vote(s)
    51.9%
  4. Score Draw

    4 vote(s)
    5.1%
  5. No Score Draw

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  6. Blackburn Rovers by 1 goal

    4 vote(s)
    5.1%
  7. Blackburn Rovers by 2 goals

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  8. Blackburn Rovers by 3 goals or more

    3 vote(s)
    3.8%
  1. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member


    Watford FC vs Blackburn Rovers, Championship, 21st October 2020 KO: 1945

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    Ninety five minutes of life taken. Precious seconds in the span of many that will never be regained from the arrow of time. And just one moment of magic. But what a moment. It surely makes the greed filled heavy lidded eyes of those that dwell in the loftier reaches of the Premier League open that little more. We may as well be counting down the time when Joao Pedro moves onto another higher plane of footballing existence. Because he has that quality. Not just the goal but moments that preceded it. The simple confidence to pull off what would seem to others incredibly difficult, performed so perfunctorily that it seems second nature for him. A throwback to the time when the mention of the word Brazilian football conjured up images of shimmying hips, outrageous flicks and the desire to dribble through entire defences.

    Future star of the selecao:

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    As for the rest of what was a dreary spectacle there were moments which showed brief flickers of attacking threat and worryingly a couple of moments of sheer lazy ineptitude. Partly because Derby were so ineffectual they like us could not score in a month of Sundays. Those lapses such as Captain Tom deciding to present the Rams with an almost empty net which Jason Knight must have missed deciding to pass and not shooting with Foster so far out of his area are inexcusable.

    And as for the attacking threat. The midfield while they huffed and puffed barely showed anything in the creativity department. Chalobah remains worryingly inconsistent and rather poor when compared against Knight. Quina remains frustrating and if he decides to keep his eyes glued to his feet rather than around him his career will derail with speed. His failure to spot Pedro unlike Rooney finding Holmes illustrates this. The only encouraging note in his efforts after being bundled off the ball several times was his willingness and sudden increase in strength to win a couple of vital challenges in the last forty five minutes. This he needs to repeat with more frequency.

    The main avenue of attack with Sarr missing was down the left. Kiko and Sema were the only effective combination on the night although Kiko's unwillingness to wrap his left foot around the ball when he has beaten his man would drive any sane coach mad. And it was encouraging to see Wilmot making strides forward while his defensive performance was much improved. Indeed his run forward allowed Pedro just that little moment of time and space to unleash his unerring projectile past a helpless Marshall.

    Kabasele and Troost-Ekong were barely troubled with the former in Rolls Royce mode shrugging off Rooney with ease and hitting the extra gear when needed sweeping up with ease. It certainly is not the area we need to be concerned about despite Troost-Ekong picking up a hamstring strain. The concern lies in midfield and upfront.

    Without a functioning midfield Pedro will have limited service to display his talents. Despite manfully chasing and pressing it must be frustrating for a player of his quality to see so little of the ball at his feet. It is hugely concerning to see how Derby bossed the opening minutes. And concerning enough for Ivic to state these slow starts concern him too. We need to be at it from the off and the returns of Hughes and Capoue will be a sea-change in the fortunes of our striking department. They will guarantee quality.Most welcome for the visit of Blackburn will be the return of Stipe Perica. With his hold up play and intelligence he would be a most excellent foil for Pedro. Sarr should be back as well in time to cause Amarii Bell a sleepless night ortwo. Their absence along with Will and Etienne led to a bench that was incredibly weak limiting Ivic's options to change the game should he need to.

    Stipe Perica. The return of a true target man is just what our anaemic attack needs:

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    Given how matches went today it is imperative that we continue to win our matches at home and build our position in the top four. And also seeing as how some potential rivals have been weakened with the end of the domestic window. Rodon and Benrahma leaving this division while we retain Sarr and Hughes for instance can only be seen as a positive.

    As for Blackburn they were brought to earth today by a last gasp winner for Nottingham Forest who on the balance of play thoroughly deserved their win under new boss Chris Hughton. Veteran campaigner Tony Mowbray has used a consistent 4-3-3 formation this season with Adam Armstrong spearheading the attack with Ben Brereton and Tyrhys Dolan on his right. Bradley Johnson brings a wealth of experience and long range threat in the centre of midfield although creative force Lewis Holtby missed the game against Forest along with Joe Rothwell.

    Former Geordie Adam Armstrong is Rovers top scorer this season albeit three of those were against Wycombe:

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    At the centre of defence Daniel Ayala has changed partners with Irishmen Derrick Williams and Darragh Lenihan with all three (although only two will play) are a threat at the set piece. Blackburn like all other EFL clubs are in tight circumstances with their biggest signing from Genk, Tomasz Kaminski being ever present for them in goal. After banging in five against relegation favourites Wycombe and four against a hapless Derby the goals have dried up with a goalless draw against Cardiff and the defeat to Forest. I expect Mowbray to stick with his plans tucking Brereton and Dolan into midfield for much of the time as we dictate possession and territory and hoping to sneak something on the break.

    Probable line up for the match on Wednesday assuming the injury situation does not change.

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    -Ngakia-----Kabasele------------Cathcart--------------Wilmot------------Femenia----
    ----------------------Chalobah-----------------Cleverly-----------------------------
    -------Sarr-------------------------Pedro-----------------------Sema-----------------


    Opposition forums:
    https://roversfans.com/index.php?forums/rovers-chat.2/
    https://www.brfcs.com/mb/index.php?/forums/forum/4-football-messageboard/


    Head To Head:
    https://www.11v11.com/teams/watford/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Blackburn Rovers/

    Things to do:

    How about learning more about our town ? And its environs through history as the town is undergoing such dramatic change at present. Several pertinent books below.


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    Last edited: Oct 17, 2020 at 8:44 PM
  2. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    "When somebody waits for me,what's his name?
    Ken Furphy.
    Bye bye Blackburn".
     
  3. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    its
     
  4. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Monty Python's Flying Circus?
     
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  5. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Must win game
    Sarr and Capoue must play
    We need to play better football
     
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  6. If Perica, Sarr and Capoue are available who will drop out ? Chalo, Quina and ....
    Must win game.
    0-1 Graham 89.
     
  7. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    I think he has left now.

    That Douglas will score or set up a goal though !
     
  8. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Rindaldi?
     
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  9. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Yep, Danny boy is back at Sunderland
     
  10. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Why should Perica walk straight into the team?
     
  11. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

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  12. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

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  13. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    That kind of thing would never happen here.
     
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  14. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Because he's actually a striker? I get you're not a fan, and I get he's not the messiah, but Sarr and Pedro not strikers, get Perica in the team focusing on getting in the box, and let Pedro and Sarr focus on what they do best rather than get frustrated at not being able to get in the game. Besides, Perica does link up well
     
  15. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    What is your favourite cheese?
     
  16. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

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  17. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss Squad Player

    This a must win/draw/lose game.

    If it’s called off due to weather extremities or Covid circumstances , I’m going up the road .
     
  18. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    People say Pedro isn't a striker, but he played almost half his games in Brazil as a striker and currently has 2 in 5 and has looked one of our best players so far this season whilst playing as a striker. He's far more a striker than Sarr is.

    People seem desperate to like him and for him to succeed (fair enough, obviously that would be great) but nothing about Perica says to me that he should walk into the team. I'm repeating myself but all he's done so far is have a couple of decent touches, miss a boat load of chances and get himself idiotically sent off after being anonymous against a League Two side.

    Add all that to his terrible career goals record and I don't see why he should come back from suspension and instantly start.
     
  19. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Have you not seen the thread on here about the newspaper's reporting on Rooney and Covid? Because what you are suggesting might just come true mate.

    So good luck at "The Kennel" :D
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2020 at 8:00 AM
  20. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    I'd love to see someone snap the chavvy scrote that is Harvey Elliott.
     
  21. Vlad seems keen on rotation so we might start to see 1 or 2 of the missing and injured back - Sarr, Capoue, Gray perhaps. Home win.
     
  22. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Good news that they have ayala - he is absolute dog turd
     
  23. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    If it's kicking off in 1945 as per the title will the war be over in time to get our boys home for Christmas?
     
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  24. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

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  25. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Just the Championship version of Burnley, so no surprises there.
     
  26. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    Remember when we won at Ewood Park 4-3? Michael Hyde ran rings all night. Remember when we beat them 4-0 at the Vic? Pretty good record against them as of late.

    But these are different times under difficult circumstances. If Ivic said he wants improvement after Derby, he will demand it. Hopefully with Perica back and Sarr down the flank we should be fine. Like Smudger said, their goal streak has ended now, and defensively we are going well. They have danger men, but if we can get an early goal and keep our heads we should do enough. 2-0.
     
  27. 3 games in a week coming up so seems as good a time as any to rotate!
     
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  28. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Write a review, most of the talk is about the oppos review.......
     
  29. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    I hope Ivic switches to a 4-3-3 in order to get the best out of Sarr.

    A team something like this:-

    ..............................Foster

    Ngakia - Troost-Ekong - Kabasele - Femenia

    ..............Capoue - Garner - Cleverley

    ......Sarr............. - Perica - .................Pedro

    Subs: Bachmann, Wilmott, Cathcart, Sema, Quina, Deeney, Phillips

    If Deeney was fit, then I'd play him, but I don't think he'll be ready to start for this one. Hughes and Gray likewise.

    We may be trading our Bank of England defence by switching the formation, but something has to be done to improve our attacking play.
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2020 at 10:27 AM
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  30. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/920313.stm

    https://oldwatford.com/2000/09/12/12th-september-2000-new-division-one-blackburn-rovers-3-watford-4/


    I remember that game well. Listened to it on the radio whilst playing what was then called Championship Manager 99/00. Thought we might really go straight back up after that game! Wasn’t to be.

    My hero was in charge of Blackburn that day too.
     
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  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Well, assuming there's nothing fishy going on, I fully expect Sarr to start against Blackburn. I don't know how serious the knock Capoue picked up in training was, though by the sounds of it, I'd expect Hughes to be involved in some way, he was supposedly close to being involved on Friday. Gray sounds a little bit further away from being fully involved
     
  32. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Joao Pedro has had three games as a lone centre forward, and he's done an admirable job all isolated up top, but the pgoal against Derby showed his instincts are to find those pockets of space in that area of the pitch rather than get in the box himself. As a front two with Sarr, they both did quite well against the scum, although the less said about Reading the better. With Perica up top, we have someone who can give defenders something to think about himself, link up with the two wingers either side of him, and we're not going to lose what Joao Pedro offered on Friday. I mean Christ, we're not talking about a geriatric Glenn Murray here, Perica is actually useful
     
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  33. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Playing a striker would be a start.

    I'd also like to see 4-3-3 especially with better centre mid options fit.
     
  34. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    I reckon Ivic will tease us, one back against Blackburn (Sarr) then plus one for Bournemouth (Capoue) and so on!
     
  35. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Is this Wednesday? We normally play all our midweek games at home Tuesday.
     
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