Watford Fc 3-0 Birmingham City - 20/03/2021

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Smudger, Mar 18, 2021.

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What will the scoreline be ?

Poll closed Mar 20, 2021.
  1. Watford by 3 goals or more

    13.2%
  2. Watford by 2 goals or more

    37.7%
  3. Watford by 1 goal

    28.3%
  4. No Score Draw

    3.8%
  5. Score Draw

    9.4%
  6. Birmingham Cityby 1 goal

    1.9%
  7. Birmingham Cityby 2 goals

    1.9%
  8. Birmingham City by 3 goals or more

    3.8%
  1. reids

    reids First Team

    I fully agree with that quote, a similar one I hear is "there's responsibility with man-marking, if a player scores then you can blame his marker" which is rubbish as the same goes for zonal - if a goal is scored in your zone then you're at fault as much as a man-marker is. Plus it's stupid blaming players for a goal, especially when teams use blockers from set-pieces a lot these days meaning if you're blocked there's nothing really you can do to continue tracking your marker - so seems harsh to get blamed for that.

    On that note at the end of January I looked at all the teams in the PL this season and how they defended (I classed zonal as 4+ zonal markers defending the 6-yard area)

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    Zonal marking came out marginally worse (although it's quite a small sample size) so it's not enough to say zonal marking is definitely worse. Personally I think there's no right way of defending and it instead depends on the quality of your players. Liverpool had one of the best defensive records from corners in the league last season and this season they've got one of the worst - their set-up hasn't changed at all but obviously VVD is a huge miss in that regard which would again suggest player quality plays a huge factor in the results of a defensive set-up.
     
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  2. Lighten up Francis. It's a long running forum joke. Hence the 'likes'.
     
  3. Well, when you see a chance, take it.
     
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  4. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Yep, the Brum markers looked they were going round (a) mulberry bush.
     
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  5. Are you trying create another feud here? It was a forum joke, yet you are wetting your knickers. FYI, I am intelligent; the fact that I choose to make a light hearted dig at a common grammar faux pas (I won't italicise that because your sensitive little soul would obviously take it the wrong way) is coincidental.
     
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  6. God knows what they'll do when they have to play Muff.
     
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  7. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    That's not very Watfordy. What has happened to history and tradition?
     
  8. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    They’ll just have to keep on runnin’.
     
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  9. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Yes. I'm old enough to remember when we came out of lockdown confident that everything was going the right way for the only team to have slaughtered Liverpool that season ....
     
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  10. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Liked for references to (1) Traffic and (2) the first single i ever bought
     
  11. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    I dont find snobbery, elitism or bigotry light hearted fun. Or is it funny in any way.

    Oh and just saying you are intelligent, doesnt make you intelligent.

    Sorry.
     
  12. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Effortlessly!
     
  13. Bless.
     
  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Can confirm. Regular winner of the daily quiz.
     
  15. Knowledge is not intelligence!
     
  16. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Bugger.
     
  17. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I can't afford Sky or Hive Live, so I watched the game from my private jet yesterday.

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  18. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Did your plan have a banner attached to it?
     
  19. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Looks like they were taken from the "Dong OUT" banner flyby plane.
     
  20. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    'A Hypocrite's Progress: A Modern Day Morality Tale in Two Panels'

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  21. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    I'm not from Watford and only used to go on match days, but what has happened to the allotments!? What are they putting there? I wonder what else will have changed since I was last there a year ago
     
  22. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Blimey! Don’t open that can of worms.
     
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  23. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Baroness Thornhill of Bedlam declared once upon a time it was to be used for a future Health Campus. None of that materialized. Housing now apparently. Most of the allotment holders are waiting for another plot. Another loss of green space to the ego of an ill qualified nutjob. She should not be allowed to run the proverbial picnic. Never trust politicians of whatever hue. She is also behind the bridge across the enormous lake in the Parade. Well worth all the money thrown at it.
     
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  24. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Too late I am afraid to say:

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  25. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Some away fans still think they have to climb through them to get to the ground.

    I wonder how busy those flats are around the Rookery?
     
  26. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Are you suggesting some away fans who have trampled through the allotments,like it was the rainforest,are now squatting near my seat?!
    Heavens above,whatever next?!
     
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  27. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    I wouldn't like to pretend that I have great knowledge however for what it is worth IMO the most effective way of defending set pieces is a mixture of zonal and man marking whilst assigning someone to block off Crouchie etc .
     
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  28. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Housing, eh?
    As I understand it The Rookery End was so-called after the sub-standard dwellings that used to exist near there; 'rookery' being a (Victorian?) nickname for a noisy, overcrowded slum. These were pulled down a long time ago. I wonder if the allotments were created from the resulting space, but I don't know. Ironical, possibly.
    Probably best not to let away fans learn of this, nor of the fact that the stadium was built on an old rubbish tip.
     
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  29. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    If we are looking at a new ground would it not make sense to do a spurs, and build a ground on that land, then then the old ground can be used for housing? Of course I’m sure there is an obvious reason why not that’s already been discussed to death elsewhere.
     
  30. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    My understanding is that the Rookery was a little further away, down by the Colne where there was a silk mill (hence Silk Mill Road if you know where that is).
     
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  31. Dorset-Orn

    Dorset-Orn First Year Pro

    I've long had an irritation about our non-presence at the far post, esp when crosses/corners sail over everyone's head. Yesterday I was literally shouting at the screen.. Come on nobody at the back post ffs, and then Chabs peeled off ran back and nodded in. What a great move and goal.!
     
  32. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    I am completely unphased by our remaining fixtures. Everyone else is talking it up like we should be terrified but this is a team consisting of players who have been facing Man City, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs etc week in week out for the last 5 years. Do you honestly think they give a **** about Norwich away? We are going to go there and turn them over them coast to the title. Just watch.
     
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  33. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Rookery is the term for a slum. Was not the ground a gravel excavation site ? There are numerous gravel pits along the Colne with it being a rather large river at the end of the last Ice Age depositing a large amount of gravel as it shrank in size with reducing meltwater.
     
  34. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    We'll be back in the high life again.
     
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  35. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I was about to ask the same question what is going on behind The Rookery, it looks like a possible building plot to me?
     

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