Watford Fc 2-0 Huddersfield Town - 16/01/2021

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  1. Johnny Todd Sings

    Johnny Todd Sings First Year Pro

    In the 1930 FA Cup final Arsenal beat Huddersfield 2-0. Huddersfield supporters complained that when the Graf Zeppelin flew over Wembley their players looked up and Arsenal scored.


    In 2020 there was no Zeppelin over the John Smith Stadium when we lost, so we have no excuse, but following the game Vlad Ivic disappeared. Is that a coincidence? – No. As far as I am aware we have never seen the last of a manager/coach after a Zeppelin has flown overhead. Perhaps the Pozzos could institute the idea. Whenever they sack someone an airship flies over the Vic. They could take a photo and send it to the coach to inform him of the need to clear his desk.

    Another famous zeppelin was named when Keith Moon told Jimmy Page that his idea of forming a band would go down like a lead balloon. The American music people changed the name to ‘Led’ rather than ‘Lead’ because they said that American audiences wouldn’t know how to pronounce ‘Lead’.

    Led Zeppelin prophesied the result of this home game against Huddersfield. The world was a very different place when the prophecy was made fifty years ago, in 1971. In late 1971 we were bottom of Division Two and Huddersfield were a few places above the drop zone in the First Division, which indicates the prescient nature of the revelation. The prophecy is based on the ebb and flow of the match rather than a breakdown of individual players and actions, though I have interpreted some specifics where appropriate. I will first give a micro interpretation of the prophecy, going through each verse, then give the macro meaning.

    The prophecy

    There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
    And she's buying a stairway to heaven
    When she gets there she knows, if the stores are all closed
    With a word she can get what she came for

    The lady knows that blue and white stripes don’t glitter. It is The Golden Boys that glitter. Unfortunately none of us can buy a stairway to the heaven that is a seat at the Vic. So, as the stores are all closed, put your television or computer in the highest part of your home, climb a stairway to that heaven and get what you came for. Do not watch the game in the basement. This is a requirement. We will lose if you do.

    There's a sign on the wall, but she wants to be sure
    'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings
    In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings
    Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven

    Words can mean something that represent the addled brain of a rock musician or they can be a prophetic message to the initiated. You just need to look at the right wall. The songbird is still trying to sing but it cannot fly as high as a zeppelin. All our thoughts are misgiven if we fear the yellow songbird. The Birds and the Brook/ The Canary Polka was a record released in the UK in 1930, the year that Huddersfield were startled by the zeppelin and lost to the bunch over the fence from us. We are misgiven if we think that the Canary polka is the dance for the title. (See later verses for confirmation). Brook is one of those words that have two meanings. It is a stream. We will be watching the game with streams. A stream is also found in a valley. There is a Hudderfield player, Vallejo, whose name means ‘Jo Valley’ in Spanish. Jo is pronounced “hwo”. It is a sound of negative surprise and astonishment. Vallejo was on the subs bench in the earlier fixture and once played for Sestao River club. He is not the brook. He is the site of the brook and his thoughts will be misgiven as his side lose. That is important. Huddersfield do not like running water. Huddersfield is an anagram of ‘herded fluids’. If we are too fluid for them they will not be able to control us. Excess fluidity is impossible to herd. If we are not fluid enough Huddersfield will control our movements. Fluids from herds are also known to pollute brooks. This pollution has a detrimental effect on birdlife, whether canaries or swans. We will gain points on Swansea and Norwich. To brook also means to refuse to accept. We refuse to accept that the canary is superior to the hornet just as we refuse to accept that the terrier is.

    There's a feeling I get when I look to the west
    And my spirit is crying for leaving
    In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees
    And the voices of those who stand looking
    That's you.

    To the west of the Vic one can enter Cassiobury Park where there are trees. Cassio Road was our previous home where we never played Hudderfield. Our spirit left Cassio Road with sadness but we looked forward to the Vic. The first meeting between the teams was in 1969 in Division Two. They have won more head to head games but we have advanced further than them. Also, we, the supporters, stand looking as we leave this league. Our voices ring out just as smoke is seen in the trees (Forest). These are trees in addition to the tree by the brook. The rings also represent the ring of changes that are happening to our side. Huddersfield stand looking as we move on. Jonathan Hogg will be crying for leaving.

    And it's whispered that soon, if we all call the tune
    Then the piper will lead us to reason
    And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
    And the forests will echo with laughter
    Remember laughter?

    This verse is self-explanatory except it will not just be the forests of South West Hertfordshire that will echo with laughter. It will be the villages and the towns. It will be the A roads and the B roads. The laughter will echo up the M1 to those who changed from white to an orangey puce colour. (It is no coincidence that puce means flea in French). We need to all call the tune, the same tune, then Xisco (the piper) will lead us to reason. When we call the same tune we will move as one and joy will spread though our part of Hertfordshire, but it will not be a simple victory. We will win late in the game when we “stand long” or at least longer than Huddersfield. This will lead to a new dawn, the real start of our revival. We will remember laughter. It has been a long time since we laughed but we will be laughing by then end of the day and into the new day. Here the “new day” also means a new era. The sadness since the FA Cup semi-final will be banished.

    And it makes me wonder
    If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now
    It's just a spring clean for the May queen
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
    There's still time to change the road you're on

    The sterile winter of our recent past has gone. We were alarmed at the appointment of Xisco but now the Kid has changed the road that we were on. The May queen, resplendent in colours of gold, black and red takes us into a clean Spring. Hedgerows bustle as the natural order of things returns. It is only now that we realise that the bustle is positive and we have no reason to be alarmed. Lifeless sticks become resplendent in golden flowers. We have changed the road that we are on in time. The previous road was a problem but in the long run that doesn’t matter. Masina will play well for us. Masina means car in Romanian and with a car we can speed down the road, the correct road.

    Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know
    The piper's calling you to join him
    Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know
    Your stairway lies on the whispering wind?

    And as we wind on down the road
    Our shadows taller than our soul
    There walks a lady we all know
    Who shines white light and wants to show
    How everything still turns to gold

    Our heads will be full of our songs. Xisco wants you to join the celebrations. Whisper it; you can hear the sounds of the stairway to the Vic. It will be open again but listen to the piper lead us on. He is calling you to join the lady on the right road to the place where everything turns to gold. Her light will banish the shadows of our souls. The wind blows away the obstacles hiding the light. Victory will be ours.

    And if you listen very hard
    The tune will come to you at last
    When all is one and one is all, that's what it is
    To be a rock and not to roll, oh yeah

    And she's buying a stairway to heaven

    Listen. Some of us have to listen harder than others. We will climb out of this league. The tune of the side where all is one, not a disjointed collection of individuals, will come to us at last so that all that glitters is gold. This could mean that we will play really well and easily win but, when taken in conjunction with earlier verses, it is more likely that “at last” means near the end of the game. Victory will come late. The team will rock but overcome that and not roll back.

    Macro interpretation

    This is all very well but what does it mean on Saturday. Here is the macro interpretation. Remember that the prophecy was written many years before this game. For prophesies to come true requires work. This prophecy is based on Huddersfield’s fear of zeppelins and the current Covid crisis. We will all be watching this from home. All the shops will be shut but we will still be able to “get what we came for.” This was not possible when the prophecy was made but it is now. As for the game, victory will not be easy. The defence, personified in Masina, will have to concentrate and work together. Speed on the road will bring that victory.

    Who is the lady? The lady is good fortune, or in the words of the song a fair wind, a whispering wind. With the lady on our side, we need not fear, even when things do not seem to be going well. Late on things will change for the positive.

    Do we need more than that? No! The prophecy is clear. We are moving on the right road. They beat Swansea away. We lost because we didn’t play as one for the whole game. The tune from the piper is now stronger and better known to the players. Huddersfield beat us in the winter of our discontent but maybe that is what we needed. Two senior players did for Ivic and one of them has now left. Here is the prophecy before the earlier fixture.

    “Good-morning, good-morning!” the manager bossed
    When they met him last month on our way to the Town.
    Now the players he growled at are some of 'em lost,
    And we're cursing his staff, the incompetent clown.
    “He's a miserable sod,” grunted forward to back
    As they slogged up the M1, with kit in a pack.

    But he did for himself by his lack of attack.

    (With apologies to Siegfried Sassoon).

    In the away game Huddersfield’s plan of attack was to wait for us to do the work for them. It was an effective method. Since then they have lost away to Barnsley and won at home to Blackburn. Last time out in the league they lost to Reading at home 2-1. They started well but Reading came back into the game. The prophecy tells us that much the same will happen on Saturday. Our players will all be singing the same tune but that there will be discordant aspects early on. We will not give them the game. In fact their right back, Harry Toffolo, is an anagram of ‘Half Roof Troy’ which can only mean that he will be unable to completely cover Deeney, especially if he is also worrying about Isma*la Sarr, whose name is an anagram of ‘airs alarms’.
    When Sarr gets the ball the alarms will ring in the Huddersfield defence. Poor Harry Toffolo is in for an uncomfortable time but their whole side will be alarmed. This links to the earlier observation about Vellejo.

    They have just signed Rolando Adams from Newcastle. He will be controlled by Masina, according
    to the prophecy. Their star man is Isaac Mbenza but a lone star cannot match the stars of heaven,
    which is where we will be when we ascend the stairway. He was in self isolation over the cup weekend but is likely to be back for this game. He needs to understand that his isolation is over when on the pitch, not like the tree by the brook. Perhaps a canary on his shoulder will put him off. Look for a white streak down the back of his shirt for confirmation of this.

    We have signed Zinckernagel, in line with the Pozzo policy of signing players for whom it is difficult to create songs. Zinckernagel means ‘zinc nail’ in German. Zinc nails are used in roofing and ‘half roof’ Toffolo will be disappointed to know that we have the nails he requires thus preventing him from completing his job. I can testify from experience that an uncompleted roof gets destroyed on a windy day. The prophecy tells us that the wind will blow. Zinckernagel doesn’t even need to play to have an impact on the positive outcome for this

    Another star man for Huddersfield is their best known supporter, Jean-Luc Picard, the famous Star Fleet captain in the 24th century. Picard had four pips on his uniform, three for the top flight wins Huddersfield have already achieved and the fourth one for their title win sometime between now and 2345.
    Some argue that the fourth pip is unjustified because it was won in the Yorkshire Premiership after Yorkshire gained independence from the UK


    It is rumoured that Picard, whose early career was in archaeology (see https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard), found a recording of the prophecy for this game and decided that he had to find a way into the heavens. It is not an exaggeration to say that one of the most distinguished careers in Star Fleet was a result of this match.

    To finally convince you of the validity of the prophecy you only need listen to the discordant tunes of the Terriers.

    The prophecy tells us that we will win by one goal, the winner coming late in the game as a result of an error by ‘Half Roof’ Toffolo.

    There are no photographs of architecture in heaven so I have included none. Just imagine buildings of gold, glittering, with a stairway leading up to them.
  2. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Watford 0-0 Huddersfield.

    LED Zeppelin to light up the stadium.
  3. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Hope we lose and this gets The Kid sacked.
  4. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Academy Graduate

    Hope we win and Gray gets assimilated by the Borg.
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  5. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    We will win this one.

    I can feel it in my bones.
  6. Huddersfield will be Trampled Underfoot. (I didn't properly read the preview so I'm hoping that this isn't in there.)

    Hopefully our strikers don't have a Communication Breakdown. (Ditto)
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  7. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    Play the 11 who did well at OT. Minus Chalobah of course. Oh, and stick our own fat lady on the bench. We need to freshen things up, and the next two games could see us right back in contention if we win them.

    Hungbo did ok, Zinc deserves a go at a lower level side. Only thing I'm not sure on is the GK situation. Does Xisco give Bachmann a shot, or will Ben GoPro "it's only a game" Foster have a chance to redeem himself?

    It's a tough call, we need a response after Swansea, and these next two games are pivotal, even at this stage.

  8. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Reservist

    Play the kids.
  9. No time to read the intro post before the game finishes but I’m sure it was great.
    Must win game.
    WFC 1 HTFC 3
    This, following yet another away defeat and meek cup exit to a northern non-entity, leaves the kid hanging by a thread.
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  10. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Whatever the result, the song remains the same.

    How many more times do we have to see us fail to register shots on goal before we signed a striker?
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  11. Hopefully we fight like animals in this one. Ideally terriers.
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  12. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Obviously I'd like to win this one but I'd be satisfied with a gritty, brave performance and a narrow defeat.

    As long as we pass the ball around a bit, sling in a few mindless crosses and take the worst free kicks in the history of professional football, who cares if we don't threaten to score?

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  13. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

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  14. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Unless we give the game away, like we did the last time we played this lot, it's going to be a case of can we score a goal. At home, we've actually been reliable in this aspect. This should be a routine win and so should the next one at home to Barnsley.

    We're a timid outfit when we play away, but at home it's usually a different story. I'm hoping Watford take some confidence from the performance at United and take it into Saturday.

    Gray wont score of course, but if someone else can step and do his job for him, I think we'll have enough to win this one. 1 or 2-0.
  15. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    I'm sort of glad I can't go to this one, or any us really. That 4-1 battering by them still hangs over the stadium for me. Cannot fathom how utterly kack we were that day.
    I know it's a case of different season different circumstances but that has to be one of our worst at the Vic I have personally sat through - cobbled with the heavy Muff loss
    and getting slapped 5-1 by Palarse.

    Anyway - happy thoughts ==== happy thoughts.
  16. Lloyd

    Lloyd Reservist

    I think I'll give the match a miss and watch this instead
  17. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    So I genuinely believe this will be the start of a good period for us with the entertainment somewhere between ok and very good and results to match.

    Most teams we play now up until the last 5 games of the season will not be as good as the Man Utd side we played (yes it wasn’t their first 11 but it was a good side and better than the champ teams we are playing).

    You could see the difference in patches with Pedro and Zinc on the pitch, players who want the ball, move for it, control it with ease and look to create. Sarr is a better player with people like that around him. Hughes looked much better and if he’s fit he’s a great player at this level. We have 2 good GK’s and a capable defence at this level.

    It’s not perfect and of course there is one very weak position which has been mentioned on here - just checking the counter - 12,376 times, but I’ve come to terms with it because I hate feeling this negative all the time about the team I support. Maybe the Pozzos will surprise us, unlikely, but I think we have enough to get us through.

    Who knows how good this manager is, but even some half decent coaching and attacking tactics and I believe we are about to witness something to make us all feel happy about this team.

    Looking forward to it - will be £10 well spent this time.

    Need to work now so I’ll put my flag down.
  18. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    @Johnny Todd Sings have you thought of becoming a writer? I could see some of this played out in a television program. You are better than most CW Network writers.
  19. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    I believe this is the real start to our season. We're at the halfway stage now (all bar Millwall). From now on we're playing reverse fixtures and we need to better run of form in the second half of the season. This means maintaining the good home form, but we big upturn in away results and performances. For me it does all boil down to our strikers (there's no getting away from it). They are not good enough to score goals at even Championship level.

    We are strong defensively, and I believe we can get away with what we have in midfield as long as we can take our chances in matches. This is vital and key to winning the volume of games in order to get promoted.

    The first part of the season was a dress rehearsal. We're in touch with second place at least, so we have to consider automatic promotion is still viable, but we do need to improve.

    I tend to look at blocks of matches. 5 will take us to the end of January. Win our three home games and get at least 2 points (if not more) from the two away games will put us in a good position, but I do feel we need at least 11 points from those 5 games in order to stay in touch. Then the window closes and we have what we have for the remainder of the season.

    This window is crucial. We have to sign a striker, or else it's just wishful thinking without any real substance to think we'll gain promotion.
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  20. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    Capoue to make an unexpected cameo and boot the ball in his own net.

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  21. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    You've done it now, who would have guessed :D
  22. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Wtf did I just read? The quicker this covid sh1t is over the better for some of you it would seem. Watford 2-1 Hudds
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  23. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Hopefully we won’t give them a 2 goal head start .
  24. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Reservist

    Back to back home games against the two Yorkshire teams that inflicted horrible losses on us.

    Time for revenge.


    Watford 3-0 Huddersfield
    Deeney (pen 90+1, 90+3, 90+6)

  25. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member


    Zinckernagel and Hughes to play beyond Pedro as often as possible.Push Kiko or Adam alternately using Cleverly and Wilmot as a deep pivot. Sarr and Sema to get into the box on the opposite side of the attacking fullback cross and stay out wide when not to open up the space for the two attacking midfielders. Pedro free role. Press hard from the front five. Christ we are thin on the ground for decent replacements upfronts though. Ngakia, Kabasele at the back , Garner at a pinch in midfield but upfront ? Deeney. Gray ? Awful. And no Perica again.
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  26. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    "You can't beat a bit of Led Zepplin" said the young man behind the counter at a Virgin music emporium when shops existed.
    Was it a dream or did TS play weight loss adverts constantly when Deeney was on this morning?
  27. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    The season starts from here. We are putting a team together now for the first time this season.
  28. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    We don't get penalties m8
  29. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Reservist

    It'd be really nice for once to see a settled side, not necessarily in terms of personnel, but in results, team spirit and confidence, and the next five games at least give us a good chance of that (Stoke is a toughie, but we have a good record there).

    It's pretty pathetic that only twice have we won more than two in a row since promotion, and our longest unbeaten run has been six games, and in a season where we still got relegated. And it's not purely down to our record against the big six being crap, we haven't even matched the former in a lower division. We need to put together at least one really good run of form, as things stand this stop-start form will get us into the play-offs, but we won't be going into them with enough confidence to make even getting to the final likely.

    As others have said, this window is crucial, with some decent signings needed to freshen things up.
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2021
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  30. RS2

    RS2 First Year Pro

    Oh good, another game for the serial losers to give us their all and fight like animals.
  31. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Will people stop banging on about signing a striker. We won't. We have two who are on huge wages that need to leave for anybody to come in and I think it's incredibly unlikely that either of them will move
  32. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    That's us ****ed then.
  33. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Yeah but we really do need a striker. A fox in the box, if you will. A proper goalscorer. Thinking about it, we had one. Should we have held on to Vydra?
  34. Never heard of him.
  35. Will be Deeney, and 10 others.
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