Watford Fc 1-1 Brentford - 15/12/2020

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by tonycotonstache, Dec 9, 2020.

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Result

  1. Big time Watford win

    9 vote(s)
    12.2%
  2. A perfect Ivic 1-0

    16 vote(s)
    21.6%
  3. 18360678draw

    9 vote(s)
    12.2%
  4. A perfect Ivic 0-1

    11 vote(s)
    14.9%
  5. Good God we got a beasting and why didn't we sign Toney

    29 vote(s)
    39.2%
  1. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Again, disingenuity; I addressed that point in my first and third paragraphs - what I meant by the 'supposed threat'. It's very clearly there, so there was no 'switch', and there's no 'smokescreen', although those words are fun to throw around, I'm sure.
     
  2. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    True. No way Toney would be playing like this if we'd signed him.
     
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  3. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    And I said that not proactively supporting BLM runs the risk of a social media backlash. How do know hFerdinand didn't get one, and there is no sarcasm. Ferdinand has already shown himself to be a supporter of cause after the Terry problem. A normal white footballer has no such background, how do you know there would be no backlash if they remained standing when other players kneeled?
     
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  4. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Because it’s happened. In football, rugby and cricket.

    Anyway, we are digressing. There are other threads for this.
     
  5. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

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  6. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Please don't use the term 'a white.' We prefer 'people of palidity.'
     
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  7. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

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  8. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Thanks, I was wondering.
     
  9. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Jeeeeez.
     
  10. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Well I was regularly called Honkey and snowflake if that helps.
     
  11. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I know who you are now. [​IMG]
     
  12. How do you know people who boo'd don't also think black lives matter?

    I mean, I think black lives matter... I think all lives matter... human and animal... I'm certainly no racist... and I've not been to the Vic for a year so its not me boo'ing... but I'd rather our bunch of very wealthy extremely privileged (wealth makes people privileged in our society) players just got on with what we pay to watch... football.
     
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  13. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Yet another thread which has descended into a political slanging match and is therefore ruining my enjoyment of a football discussion forum.
     
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  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Typical Democrat
     
  15. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I'm pretty sure there's a lockdown in the Midlands. There's not a lot else for them to do. Not that they did much anyway.
     
  16. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I made a point of watching two of these (the pilot and s01e01 on youtube) over the summer after hearing the actor Rudolph Walker (bloke on the left wearing the polo neck jumper) vociferously defending the show on something on the radio. I, sort of, get his argument about the series being about two ****s being ****s to each other while all the other characters get on with their lives - I find that more credible than the Alf Garnett 'defence' that his character/show was there to ridicule his views.

    I don't feel the need to watch any more of the 58(!) episodes of LtN and I've just found a critique of the film (which ISTR was a stalwart of daytime ITV viewing in the 70's) which adequately sums up my opinion of the whole thing:

    Still what do I know as a middle-class, middle-aged honky.

    FWIW I found Spike Milligan's "Curry and Chips" unwatchable and on discovering the Hartnell & Troughton Dr Who's (only because we got all the other ones) was pleasantly surprised to see the number of non-Honkeys in key roles.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2020
  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think the defense is that the white guy is a lone figure of ridicule. His views are not shared by his wife or his white colleagues and he always ends up screwing himself over in an attempt to get one over on Rudolph's character. Also Rudolph is an educated, management level worker whereas the white guy is lower down, hence his inferiority complex.

    Of course that doesn't make the language or the characters' bigotry any more palatable today, but I think it's just a show which has aged terribly, rather than a pernicious, racist vehicle intent on spreading vile ideas.
     
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  18. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    with a much nicer looking wife
     
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  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Racist
     
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  20. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    The real issue is the insidious evil of any totalitarian state, no matter the proclaimed banner under which it operates.
     
  21. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    What has all this got to do with the Brentford game?
     
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