Watford FC 1-0 Everton - 09/02/2019

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Smudger, Feb 3, 2019.

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What will the score be ?

Poll closed Feb 8, 2019.
  1. Watford by three goals or more

    16 vote(s)
    17.2%
  2. Watford by two goals

    13 vote(s)
    14.0%
  3. Watford by one goal

    29 vote(s)
    31.2%
  4. Score draw

    18 vote(s)
    19.4%
  5. No Score Draw

    4 vote(s)
    4.3%
  6. Everton by one goal

    9 vote(s)
    9.7%
  7. Everton by two goals

    3 vote(s)
    3.2%
  8. Everton by three goals or more

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  1. I do not believe I am in the slightest.
     
  2. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina Squad Player

    Fair enough. I think we have a 13th to 17th squad and are over performing. You don’t agree.
     
  3. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Now you see I made that the third line.
    It was the 'Watford heaven 47 line I didn't hear'.
    In which case I'll just sing 'sod off Marco' in the '47' bit, until I receive clarification from Erasmus or our version of him.
     
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  4. We spent big for the first few summers as the championship squad needed to be turned into a premier league squad and that was the shortest most practical route.

    Now we have a premier league squad you can see we are reverting to the Pozzo model of stockpiling young talent and the best will come through into the squad.

    I’m sure if we had a really pressing need for a player the money would be spent. It sounded like we tried for several centre backs last month but didn’t land one.

    But every step you make up the premier league table the pool of potential players who can improve what you already have gets smaller, it won’t be a linear equation either.

    Look how much Everton have spent and their squad is arguably no better than it was 5 years ago.
     
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  5. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun First Year Pro

    Anyone else entering day two of the hangover?

    That was wonderful. All I wanted this season.
     
  6. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    If you went to the thread where fans predicted our final league place and ran an average, I reckon we'll be overperforming massively compared with expectations.
     
  7. I don't agree with you on that, no, even though it is not what I said.

    If Javi were to finish bottom half with this squad, I would expect him to be replaced, unless there were serious injury problems.
     
  8. Meister

    Meister Meister Staff Member

    Not so sure it so cut and dry. I think it depends on how we play as well. Well clear of relegation has to be the aim. If we are bottom half but playing well then I think he still gets a pass. If however we're mid table but the players look miserable and not putting the effort in I don't think the club will be slow in giving the boot. It takes time for a drop in form to start to affect league position and conversely it take a while for a new manager to come in and stop the rot.
    One thing the Pozzos are not slow in, is replacing a manger.

    Javi seems to be liked by the players and we do seem to have a lot of confidence players at out club so it's a good match. I don't think with the squad we have that a more authoritarian manager is a good fit.
     
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  9. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Academy Graduate

    Yes it's about quality not cost. Look at what we paid for our keepers and defenders. Thruppence hapney!! Doucs Caps Hughes and Chalobah combined was only about £25m in total. Id say the value of our squad is a lot higher than we paid for it, unlike for example Everton. We've never had this kind of strength in depth before.
     
  10. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    I agree, our approach to building the squad has been very measured without going overboard; yes there have been some flops but mostly they have been those that we've not paid massive amounts for. Looking at Bournemouth, who don't have the same scouting set up as us, are spending huge sums of money to get their targets. It's all very well when things are going fine, as they are for them at the moment, but in the long term it's not sustainable. How many clubs crash out of the Premier league with horrendous debts? If we get relegated with the Pozzos, I have no doubt that the club will be sustainable.
     
  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    I think you are in a minority.
    We of course aim for the stars but anything out of the bottom 6 is overachieving with the squad we have. Look at our back 4 on saturday.
     
  12. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

  13. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

  14. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason The One and Only

    I've posted something similar to this elsewhere, I think Holebas is every bit as tenacious as Robbo was, but is actually more skilful than he was.

    Holebas definitely deserves Robbo type status among WFC LB's IMO!
     
  15. Hornpete

    Hornpete Reservist

    Didnt Cathcart score an overhead kick once?

    Edit. Yep

     
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  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    V Birmingham in our promotion season .
     
  17. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    That wasn't very long ago, but it's incredible even in that short time how much the stadium has improved.
     
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  18. Do you mean look how they played or look at them through your eyes.

    Pretty much unanimously they played well. So what's your problem? When we have one of the better performing defences in the country, conceding only three goals in our last seven matches, two of them against Spurs.

    Sadly, it appears only to be on this forum that there would be a majority criticising their ability.

    We (the forum), are a laughing stock among Watford fans.
     
  19. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Several things spring to mind watching that:

    1) Forgotten how much I loved the promotion season jersey - still ranks as one of my favourites
    2) Anya, bless him, actually put in a decent cross
    3) Ighalo just wandering around with the ball - it wasn't about him so he didn't seem to bothered, when everyone else is losing it
    4) I miss Angella's enthusiasm and genuine love for the club
    5) Ahh Abdi....still miss you bud

    Craig may not be Vincent Kompany, but he's so important to us as he does so much covering and unseen work.
     
  20. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    I don't have a problem ?
    Yes they played brilliantly.
    My point, and probably Jumbolina's is that Gracia is getting some fairly average premier league players to overperform through excellent coaching and motivation. You may of course believe that Mariappa for example would walk into any premier league team and that's fine.
     
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  21. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Excellent result!

    Another clean sheet too which is great, haven't read this match thread but I doubt there is much bed wetting about not signing a CB anymore.
     
  22. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina Squad Player

    Really? It’s not fair to sack Gracia were he to finish below Everton, Wolves, Leicester, West Ham surely? There is a gulf in resource. 11th or 12th would still be a good achievement in my book.
     
  23. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Didn't someone say we are 15th on wagebill?

    That is the best benchmark for the manager's 'added value'.
     
  24. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    I completely forgot about that goal, as it was the only positive thing to happen throughout what was a very tense and nervy game.
     
  25. Mariappa has played like that consistently since he came back. Javi is showing belief in him and is being rewarded. His tackling has always been first class. He is good enough and is capable of doing a job for any PL team and fit to walk into anything outside of the top 6 on merit.
     
  26. Yep. That's great. Can we agree to differ? I'm not saying you are wrong but you keep asking me to contradict myself and agree with you, and I cannot do that.
     
  27. Yes, but our standards are set by Gino, and they appear to be higher than yours in that respect.

    You do not believe in the quality of a number of our players but he does, I do and so do plenty of others, and that belief is being justified. End of story as far as most are concerned.
     
  28. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'll wear that badge. Outside of the select few, erudite and lucid members of this forum (that I have found time to create) our fan base is a dribbling mess of idiocy.

    We're their laughing stock? They're not even stock.
     
  29. You have restored my pride in the forums.
     
  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    You have restored my faith in my 424 character.
     
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  31. Did I take our pills this morning?
     
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  32. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    The evidence would suggest "no" :)
     
  33. Phew. Those laxatives play havock with my bowels.

    Hang on! How do you know what's going on in my pants?
     
  34. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard Squad Player

    Really? We're only 4 points above 11th and still have to play Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, United and City, bottom half is very realistic and surely everyone is aware of that?

    I've never heard a Watford fan once mention this forum, I thought it was pretty much non-existent to most fans outside of here considering there's not that many active users compared to how many fans there are.
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019
  35. Since63

    Since63 Reservist

    Liked for the early modern spelling
     

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