Watford FC 0-3 Brighton & Hove Albion - 10/08/2019

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Steve Leo Beleck, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Worst thing is you just know we'll play exactly the same team next week. Definition of insanity.
     
  2. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Yes.
     
  3. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    I think we have entered a difficult period.

    Pundits expect us to do well. When last year many predicted relegation
    We started on a very good run last year which mitigated against our poor end of season form
    We are coming into this season in a very poor run of form

    We aren’t near the top 6 in terms of consistency and we aren’t quite at the level of wolves, Leicester and Everton in terms of all over quality either. We fall
    In with the rest

    Other managers, like the pundits, don’t take a win against us for granted. We aren’t underestimated anymore. The Brighton manager out thought us.

    I think we have fallen into a sweet spot where we aren’t good enough and yet everyone else tries very hard to beat us. I think we will struggle

    Others will all treat us like a top half team when in reality our quality is much lower. We aren’t under the radar anymore. Tough test
     
  4. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Well, Watford showed that inflexibility yesterday, but normally, under this coach I thought we'd looked more flexible than with previous coaches. A coach, of course, can only deal with the players at his disposal. If that was the main limiting factor yesterday then there is a strong need for some different players in the starting line-up. I know he's not everything, but Cleverly comes to mind; you know he's going to put in a shift. I like the look of Quina, but maybe he has been thought a bit lightweight for the Premier League - I don't know. Obviously, also the inclusion, as soon as possible, of Welbeck and Sarr. Move Hughes more centrally - I think he has been unfairly criticised by some on here.
    I've defended them against this before but a couple of players did look as if they are suddenly too old. I'm not sure about Deeney in this respect because I thought Brighton had done their homework and he was marked, played and tackled out of the game.
    If the coach is thought to be at fault: A) I'd wonder why he is suddenly no good or B) Are the players responding to his exhortations sufficiently?
     
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  5. TheDon

    TheDon First Team

    How was the 1881 section moving central?
     
  6. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    We were all excited about Pendz until we saw him play. Hopefully our first impressions were wrong
     
  7. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Dunno. But there seemed to be a whole new singing section up top central of the Rookery yesterday. Largely ineffectual in getting others involved though.

    If you're asking how they got shifted there then I haven't a scooby. But I was told that they had been and the evidence yesterday was that that was correct and the lower section of the previous 1881 were posted missing.

    Would you willingly move? I doubt that I would.
     
  8. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Gracia last Season did show some flexibility in setting up his team. He changed for a time to 4-2-3-1, with Success spear heading the attack with notable games including the 2-0 win against Wolves away and the noteworthy 2-1 loss to Spurs in the Cup. I wish he showed that little bit of nous early on this year to show he sees this. Success or Okaka as lone target men offer more than Deeney does, but in a pair of strikers Deeney still offers more than either of them, even if he was one of the worst players yesterday.
     
  9. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    From the family end I could hardly hear our singing / chanting at all and the Brighton fans seemed to sing quite a lot. But on Sky highlights couldn’t hear them at all and heard our fans quite a lot.
     
  10. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Maybe it was just me but I laughed when I saw the result. Wonder how that looked from the Rookery.
     
  11. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    From the LGT, Brighton fans were unsurprisingly loud and we were fairly quiet.
     
  12. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Appalling. Support Lootown instead.
     
  13. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    The defence is useless and will continue to be, but in front of a back 4 this is by far the best side we can put out:

    --- Doucoure - Capoue ---

    Sarr - Pereyra - Deulofeu

    ----------- Welbeck ------------

    Deulofeu/Pereyra interchangeable.
     
  14. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Is that based on their Futhead ratings ?
     
  15. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    No, it's based on the fact that Hughes, Deeney and Gray are all ****.
     
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  16. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Marginally positive and I agree. Well done.
     
  17. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    But Grays got 82 pace on FIFA .
     
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  18. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Only Deeney there however. Now not previously. Gray surprised me last season whereas he was indeed sh.t in 2017-2018. Hughes is a very good footballer but he ain't a right winger.

    Seeing as you're keen on a 4-3-3 like me (I think) here's a good formation. de Gea. Alves, van Diyk, de Ligt, Marcello. Kante, Modric, De Bruyne. Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez.

    Cost? Get real.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019
  19. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    There are indeed a number of posters who seem to delight about being negative . It is ok to be critical particularly after a poor performance ThereegerI too am getting weary of the personal infighting
    , belittling of other peoples posts, the attacks. People are indeed entitled to their view
    Thought crowd were dead yesterday. Despite move of some 1881 more central and much closer to where I sit seemed very little noise generated.
     
  20. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Indeed. I sit between the two. Didn't work at all.
     
  21. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Oh well, we're above Chelsea....
     
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  22. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Currently. As in 10 mins to go.
     
  23. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Look. About all this negativity v positivity stuff. I love our football club. And have done for well over half a century. As well as having an equal love for the natural world despite what ever else is going on around me.

    So, when some supposed supporter comes on here and trashes us on a regular basis that p.sses me off. OK?
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019
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  24. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    I think the biggest problem with our defence yesterday was our poor attack. We barely laid a glove on their defence. Our attacks frequently broke down due to poor passing, which put us under pressure. They increasingly attacked us with more freedom, as they knew we were not firing going forward. I am not sure we can do a lot with the defence, it is what it is (not very good). But we can surely do a lot better going forward, which will help us at both ends of the pitch.
     
  25. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    As I said, at least we're above Chelsea ;). And Mr HH put a bet on Utd to score 4 & win at 18-1 so a better day for football here....
     
  26. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    I trust Mr HH is taking you out for a meal some time soon then.
     
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  27. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Still on their hols.
     
  28. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Somebody get on the blower to Gracia and repeat the following ryme


    4 3 3 Drop Deeney
     
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  29. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    We need Djokovic back, he wasn’t afraid to change up the tactics when they weren’t working.
     
  30. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Our crowd will only ever get going when the team is playing well and I include myself in that. The 1881 will never change that but they can enhance and co-ordinate the atmosphere when the team plays well.
     
  31. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Well someone at the club obviously does. I got sacked by Mr Messenger as a Roadie because of being identifiable on here around sounding off around the Silva sacking. My mistake? Being identifiable. Kelso. Same on here as those who know me at the club. And I did have it coming.

    No hard feelings now. We get on fine. Same on here I trust.
     
  32. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Looked
    Looked to me that Brighton started 3-4-3, Potter realized after 10 mins it wasn’t working & so changed to 3-5-2 or even 3-5-1-1 for a while with Murray in behind Locadia. Their wing backs were told to engage with Femenia & Holebas as soon as we got beyond the halfway line, so that stopped one of our default attacking outlets. Then they had 2 floating midfielders who perpetually picked off our other main tactic....the ‘thread it through the eye of a needle’ ball into Deeney/Gray...so the 4-2-2-2 is clearly so easy to play against now that oppo coaches have sussed it. We need a formation change as a matter of urgency when the other side flood midfield. We could have been more adventurous & pushed Deeney, Gray & GD fully onto their back 3 to see what happened. But 4-2-2-2 doesn’t allow for that.
     
  33. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    I hear they holiday in Tuscany and Provence but expect them be back in September .
     
  34. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Great analysis but beyond me. I'm still stuck in the camp that believes that if we stick eleven players out on the pitch that are better than their lot then we'll beat 'em.
     
  35. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    As with your previous incarnation, a differing opinion combined with that opinion being correct, even short term, makes you angry.

    What happened to the new leaf?
     

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