Academy And Under-23s

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  1. Davidmsawyer

    Davidmsawyer Statto Statto Statto

    I’m hoping Peneranda is back in time for this one.
     
  2. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  3. reids

    reids First Team

  4. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  5. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Amazing that 3 of the 16 most valuable players in the world right now have been on our books Screenshot_20200109-122011_Samsung Internet.jpg
     
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  6. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Sancho, Richarlison and...?
     
  7. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Kane
     
  8. reids

    reids First Team

    He was only a trialist so was never really on our books.
     
  9. reids

    reids First Team

    Dahlberg started last night for Sweden in a friendly against Moldova (and kept a clean sheet in the process). Would like for him to start against Tranmere.
     
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  10. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Good news that he can still remember how to keep goal.
     
  11. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Under 23/Under 18s side lost 2-1 to Coventry.

    Cassidy scored.

    Under 18s are meant to be playing tomorrow too.

    Also the Under 23s had a game Monday too ofcouse.

    Busy week!
     
  12. BusheyOrn

    BusheyOrn Reservist

    Also a number of them are now training with the 1st team for both Bournemouth and Tranmere matches.
     
  13. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Seems somewhat strange that we agreed to play away at Tranmere on Tuesday, just two days after Bournemouth, means I think it’s highly unlikely any of the players that start Sunday will play Tuesday, due to logistics as much as anything else. The team would normally stay away the night before a first team game! So not much time for anyone involved on Sunday to wind down etc!
     
  14. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Sweden have another game on 12th so I don't think Dahlberg will be back in time for Tranmere.
     
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  15. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    You don't think he could get back in 36hrs and be ready to play? He's a keeper after all.

    Plus Sweden's friendlies aren't even official (they're not in the recognised window to release players), so if Watford insisted they'd have to send Dahlberg back now. Not that I think we need to.
     
  16. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    No I don't think we need to, just give Bachmann another game. I think it's more likely that Dahlberg will have the Monday off as he won't be back from Doha until the early hours. I'm assuming the squad will set off for Tranmere on Monday afternoon/evening.
     
  17. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I think we should play Gomes. He needs match practise. What if Foster gets injured? Gomes needs a run out and play whenever he can to keep his sharpness just in case he's called upon in the EPL.
     
  18. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Good 4-3 this moring after being behind 3 times for the Under 18.
     
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  19. Thenest1234

    Thenest1234 Academy Graduate

    That's Cassidy s first goal this season!
     
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  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    An Under 18/some Under 23s lost 3-1 to Plymouth at St Albans..

    Just didn't take their chances whereas the Pilgrims did including Joel Grant who certainly isn't under 23!!

    Ryan Cassidy was the best player and Jayden Bennett scored.
     
  21. reids

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  22. wfc4ever

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  23. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Joao Pedro and Dele-Bashiru starting for the U23s today. Money well spent.
     
  24. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    They will rip up that league.
     
  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Not today but apparently Perdro played well.

    Anyone go ?
     
  27. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    I went and wasn't impressed by anyone in the 1st half.
    Some good individual moments by Joao Pedro but he rarely got the ball.

    Teddy Perkins reminded me of Phil Jones. He's not bad but not a stand out player. Seems comfortable on his left foot but not overly quick.
    I'm wondering if he's been bought so one of the other U23 centre backs is available to the first team for the rest of the season.

    Tom Dele-Bashiru was invisible in the 1st-half and his partnership with Callum Whelan just didn't work.
    2nd-half they improved, especially as Tom D-B pushed further forward.

    Dalby showed how poor he is today. Yes he scored but compared to whoever the big #10 for Charlton was, he was poor.
    Cassidy looked a far better player when he came on.

    The best moments came when Kane Crichlow and Daniel Phillips came on.
    Both have had serious injuries but for the 15/20 minutes they had, they both looked very sharp.

    I really rate Phillips and was gutted he missed the chance to play against Tranmere.
    Physically he's a beast, skill wise very good but most of all he plays at a far higher tempo than anyone else for Watford at this level.

    One obvious thing regarding Joao Pedro - he's really struggling to communicate with teammates and gets easily frustrated.
    He's also easily wound up!
     
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  28. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    With regards to Pedro, I get the feeling he has a lot of growing up to do.
     
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  29. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Erm, if Perkins is any bit as good as Phil Jones then his signing would have been quite a coup! Jones gets a lot of stick, largely due to his slightly clumsy playing style and poor injury record, but on his day he's a very good defender and with 27 England caps.

    Thanks for the writeup.

    Shame to hear about Dalby.

    Strange that JP seems to be finding it a bit trickier to adapt so far than Richie did - JP has supposedly been taking English lessons for a bit, while Richie didn't speak a word. Richie also in general seems more petulant, whereas my initial impression of JP was that he seemed more level headed.
     
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  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Not knowing the lingo won't help either.

    Least Sarr has Capoue and Doucoure to help him out first team wise.

    Charlton number 10 was Chuks Aneke who has at MK Dons and just coming from injury.

    Person I heard from said Whelan looks good but might be too lightweight.

    Cassidy is the star but hope he hasn't burnt his bridges with the club.
     
  31. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Pedro himself said the main thing he’s struggling with is the cold. Says it’s hard to get used to breathing it in. Not many lads his age hit the ground running in a new country. I still think he’s going to become a very good player for us.
     
  32. hornetfan

    hornetfan Academy Graduate

    Thank you for the detailed report, which was both interesting and informative. Supporters need to be patient with João Pedro. He is two years younger than Richarlison was when he arrived and he will also need time to adjust to the climate. Richarlison arrived in the summer, but the colder weather in the winter may have been one of the factors which contributed to his dip in form (as well as the fact that he had no break when he changed leagues).

    Do you have any information about the situation relating to Ryan Cassidy? Does his contract finish at the end of the season and has he not signed a new contract? I read somewhere that he had an operation last summer and that is the reason why he was not playing earlier in the season, but he now seems to be regaining his form and has scored 3 goals in his last 4 games. Why is he always a substitute and not starting U-23 games if he looked a far better player than Dalby when he came on? Is this connected to Cassidy not signing a new contract or due to other issues?
     
  33. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    I've no idea about any new contract for Cassidy.

    To me he looks sharper, quicker and a bit better, certainly no worse, than Dalby when holding the ball up.
     
  34. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    He was offered one wasn't he but the agent or dad got in the way and suggested he could do better which caused a bit of a rift between player and club?

    Least the lad is getting back into the team even as a sub.
     
  35. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Under 23s won against Fulham 1-0.

    Cassidy with another goal - looked good again as well.

    Be a shame if he does go.

    Dalby seems to be not much more than a target man.
     

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