VAR Yes or No?

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by The Voice of Reason, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason The One and Only

    I'm not sure if there a thread on this, so please amalgamate this if there is.

    However, what do you think of VAR so far then? I'm all for it, it needs some tweaking, but overall I like it. The players must not be allowed to presure the refs though, and it should be a cardable offence if they do IMO. Also the pundits seem to be mostly warming to it despite most of them originally having misgivings about it.

    All in all it needs some refining and clearer rules for the players to follow with regard to harrasing the ref, but it's a yes from me.
     
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  2. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    No, but on review, yes.
     
  3. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    After today a big yes

    For you the VAR is over

    Hahahaha
     
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  4. Stevohorn

    Stevohorn Watching Grass Grow

  5. Yes, but qualified with a 'must learn when and how to use it'
     
  6. Hornpete

    Hornpete Reservist

    Yes but want the decisions made off pitch, not the ref making the decison with 22 angry players around him. And players should be yellow carded for any suggestion to the ref to review.
     
  7. a19tgg

    a19tgg Reservist

    Yeah you almost need a semi circle at the edge of the pitch the size of the centre circle and if any players step in it while the ref goes off to review and comes back on they get a yellow card.

    What I don’t get was there was a massive crack down in the PL league this season on disssent, we certainly had a few players fall foul if it, yet it is going completely unpunished during the the WC.
     
  8. Maninblack

    Maninblack First Year Pro

    It's a YES from me, but only if all decisions go our way and against teams I don't like whoever they are playing.
     
  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Well really it need some to be for clear cut errors and factual decisions like offside.

    Handballs for example are still debatable even with VAR.

    I bet a manager next season will moan there isn't VAR in the Premier league !
     
  10. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Not for me, Clive.

    Far too high a percentage of goals being scored from penalties and set pieces. It'll change the way football is played, then in a few years FIFA will realise not enough goals are being scored in open play so they'll make the goals bigger or bring in power plays or some other nonsense.
     
  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Yes but just to correct major errors. One reviewer who just tells the ref when his decision was wrong or when ref refers it upstairs .None of this running to the side to view a replay nonsense .
     
  12. oxhey67

    oxhey67 Reservist

    No.

    Make the laws of the game less open to interpretation, such as getting rid of off-side.
     
  13. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    As I said in the World Cup thread, VAR with a competent ref seems to work. So no.
     
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  14. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason The One and Only

    I actually think that would be a much better way of doing it, the on field ref reviewing it himself on a monitor is not necessary, and there would be nowhere near the amount of time taken if the off field ref just informs the on field ref he has made the wrong decision.

    Another improvement to help the refs would be to take the match timekeeping off his hands and have an off field timekeeper instead.
     
  15. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Yes,but I don't trust refs or refs in the VAR HQ,especially as they are in kit.
     
  16. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason The One and Only

    WTF do they wear their kit for, it seems a bit weird to me o_O
     
  17. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Reservist

    What’s the dress code at Stockley Park?

    ‘Shearer smart casual’ would be fine.

    An obviously expensive yet slightly hideous shirt, no tie.
     
  18. NemoNemo

    NemoNemo First Year Pro

    I like the concept of VAR, but I think a similar job can be done by having 2 refs in each half of the pitch to keep up with the speed of play. Surely the salary of 1 more ref has got to be a hell of a lot cheaper then a VAR team, setup, etc.
     
  19. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Have any of the decisions referred to VAR so far in this World Cup come about because the referee clearly wasn't up with the play? Several of them have involved set pieces and others he's been right on the spot and missed something.
     
  20. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard Squad Player

    Absolutely, it's been great to watch - next step is to ban players from moaning/surrounding the ref, a simple yellow card for dissent straight away will soon sort that out.
     
  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    I don't think that's the issue. 10 refs would still not have seen the German deflection to yesterday's goal or some of the marginal offsides and penalty calls. If the correction is quick then i think its simply a case of getting the system to work so that major corrections can be fed to the ref quickly. Or we just accept that human error is part of the game, do away with the tech, and live with conspiracy theories when the errors in the on field decisions seem to favour the bigger (like Germany last night) or home teams.
     
  22. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn Squad Player

    Full kit w*nkers
     
  23. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    If Amrabat thinks it's rubbish, then I'm all for it!
     
  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Good VAR correction just now re Senegal penalty ?
     
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  25. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Amrabat wanted it used for " everything" which would ruin the game and I think why appeals would not work .
     
  26. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard Squad Player

  27. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Big yes from me. Just needs a bit of tweaking and it's only as good as those in the VAR HQ and the ref. on the pitch. The few times it's gone wrong have been down to inadequate VAR operatives and/or an inadequate ref.
     
  28. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Personally I'd like to see about six goals per game so a marginally bigger goal would be great.
     
  29. Moose

    Moose First Team

    VOR? Yes or no?
     
  30. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Reservist

    When was the current goal size fixed?

    Humans have become significantly taller over the last 2 generations &, with better kit & training, I bet significantly more agile, so the goal is effectively much smaller than originally.

    Only two ways to address this.

    Bigger goals or a height cap on keepers.
     
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  31. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Exactly this. Bigger keepers and more organised defences have led to fewer goals with the size of the goal remaining static. Too few. A yard wider and a foot higher would probably be about right.
     
  32. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Reservist

    Exactly my proposal.

    Or rule that the GK has to be the shortest player in the team.

    Could set up an intriguing boxing style battle of the tape pre match.

    Sky would make this exciting.
     
  33. Keighley

    Keighley Reservist

    !!! :D
     
  34. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    This one is a non-starter, it would be illegal on the basis of physical discrimination.
     
  35. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn Squad Player

    Not true. An airline company advertised vacancies for flight attendants under a certain height because the headroom in the cabin was limited. Seem to think they ran some kind of air taxi in and out of Oxford but it could be any regional carrier with small craft.
     

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