VAR decisions

Was VAR working today ?

Ref pointed to his ear in the first helf but 10 seconds later signalled no penalty for a foul on Grey

It also missed a hand ball & penalty for both sides, with neither being looked at

 

It only works for the opposition.

 

Even when the ball hit Kiko's hand and bounced to our player ?

 

Handballs by a defender in the penalty area are not penalties. Don't you know anything?

 

So it worked then?

 

Not VAR but on the note of new rules, have refs just decided to completely ignore the subs leave the pitch from the nearest point?

Players spending ages to walk the opposite side to get off and the ref did nothing.

 

It's pretty obvious after watching MotD2 that refereeing decisions are going to be upheld, no matter what, when it comes to a decision of opinion. When it's a matter of fact then it will be used.

There's no point in reviewing penalty decisions at all, as VAR will not overrule a referee's decision. The only time it could be used is whether it's in the box or not. Other than that, a decision will not be overruled.

I will be interesting if a penalty is given for a blatant dive where no one touches the player, whether that will be overruled or not, but I think not.

Today there were three penalty decisions, all of them wrong IMO, but were upheld by VAR. Man City should have had one, Spurs should have had one, and Wolves should not have been awarded theirs. I understand it's subjective, but I think the criteria has to be clear. A referee has to ask himself, would it be a foul anywhere else on the park. If yes, then it's a penalty. If no, then it's not. A simple rule like that.

It's going to be a case of if the ref likes you he'll give it, if he doesn't he wont. The same as it's always been.

 

Spurs and City were definitely pen's. Not seen the Wolves one. Its an absolute nightmare at the moment and can't see how it's making the beautiful game better.

 

Because it's a players choice, not the referees. Its a bit bizarre because players have always had the power to do that but its somehow been dressed up as a new rule...

 

Previously it’s was the player’s choice. Now he “must leave by the nearest touchline unless the referee indicates the player may leave directly and immediately at the halfway line”.

 

It's early days yet hb1!

It would certainly appear that VAR is currently simply rubber-stamping ref's original pen. decisions. If that's been observed by us then it will be observed by all the TV pundits as well. So, if it continues, that will be seen to bring the process into disrepute. Then there will be a sea-change.

On offside, the process is working perfectly and entirely 'level'. You have to do toenails. How could you possibly do 'offside enough' without taking the objective result of VAR back into the realm of subjectivity?

On straight sending-offs. Have there been any controversial ones yet? I hope the process will err on the side of the 'offender' given the consequences to the player and his club of being sent off over a marginal decision.

Mistaken identity. None yet. Should be fairly straightforward.

 

I'm absolutely loving the introduction of VAR and can only see it improving as it's used more and more. Long may it continue!

 

All 3 goals for West Ham should have been disallowed. VAR does us again, that's 13 unfair decisions now.

 

Personally, I don't see the need for the onfield screen at all. It would certainly hold up play more. If the VAR process is more accurate in coming to the correct decision (as it obviously is or should be), then simply use it to make the decision and instruct the onfield ref. accordingly. As happens in both codes of rugby and cricket.

All this 'the onfield ref. must make the final decision' malarkey is just plain daft. Things have moved on. Although there is a considerable population of luddites lurking in football authorities that don't appear to have fully noticed that yet.

 

Equaliser today shouldn't have counted. What are the VAR people doing? They just have to watch a replay.

 

what about Villa? Absolute howler about Grealish diving by ref after which villa score. VAR does nothing. What is the point if it?

 

Also clear red by Leicester and VAR too cowardly to over rule ref

 

Just the stock comment every week now concerning us and a way to ignore how terrible we are. Why shouldn't it have counted this week?

 

It hit Joelinton's arm when it dropped to Schar.

By the way, it is possible to think about more than one thing after a game e.g. we were useless, that Javi has lost the plot and that their goal shouldn't have stood.

 

I didn't see it on the replays tbh.

 

Neither did I. Which is probably why the VAR ref didn't.

 

Really? They made a song and dance about it on the river a few minutes after the goal.

 

Yep, and when it was pointed out it was bloody obvious. The VAR ref missed it, these things happen but it's clearly the wrong decision with the new interpretation of the rules.

 

Hands up, I saw the replay but had tuned out the god awful commentary in the first half.

 

The problem with VAR. Scratch that. One of many problems with VAR is in a game like this the referee is less likely to have the bottle to overrule the Newcastle goal, as they are the home team. If the same happened with our goal it would likely have been disallowed. It does nothing about the refereeing cowardice that is so prevalent in the league. It also does nothing to solve problems with officials being inconsistent.

VAR out.

 

The problems are two fold:

1) The Premier League/FA directive on how it should be used in this country is a nonsense.
2) Refs don't want to make each other look bad
3) The standard of refereeing in this country is very very low. Even with TV replays they can't get it right.

 

Do away with refs altogether and let AI do the job. Would make less mistakes.

 

Al as in Alan Shearer?

https://mobile.twitter.com/premierleague/status/1159446939064328193?lang=en

 

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