VAR decisions

Nothing funnier than people lose their **** over VAR

 

I see we are one of the three teams to have had no goals rules out by VAR this season, Newcastle and Southampton are the others. Sheff Utd have had five ruled out.

 

Statistically, having scored joint fewest goals, I would imagine that is a consequence.

 

Honestly can't remember if we have had any checked by VAR - but Newcastle and Southampton certainly should have had one each ruled out.

 

Yes, but surprisingly Sheff Utd have only scored 4 more than us, and the top scoring teams aren't having a correspondingly high number of goals disallowed.

Anyway, it was just an observation.

 

Err...all goals are checked by VAR.

 

Err... forgot to include 'and overturned'...

 

VAR David Coote reviewed a tackle by studs first tackle by Lo Celso which missed the ball and landed right on his opponent’s ankle/calf. Looked like an orange card tackle at least, probably a red. Coote decided it was not serious foul play. Then 25 minutes later apparently Stockley Park confirm Coote made a human error and they admitted it should have been a red card.

Only in England do we make these **** ups.

 

Austin's meltdown after our game at their place was Hooper.

 

Bournemouth goal overturned by VAR. Love it.

 

A truly shocking state of affairs. I'm sure David Coote's punishment will be involvement in our games for the rest of the season.

 

A 2nd over turned. And to add insult to injury the handball was in muffs penalty area resulting in pen kick burnley 2-0.


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Another Bournemouth goal ruled out by VAR, which went back and awarded Burnley a penalty at the other end.

They've come out of their spat with Moss well.

 

This one is simply delicious.

From thinking they've equalised having it chalked off due to a penalty that should have been given at the other end and then going 2-0 down. Could not happen to a more deserving team.

 

Garth Crooks seems to have completely missed the whole point of VAR...
"Mike Dean decided not to give a penalty to Burnley, it was a turning point. So is the referee’s decision not final any more? The Burnley players appeal for it, but Mike Dean says no!"

 

Garth Crooks misses the point of most things. I've heard he moans about having to use a pound coin for a shopping trolley.

 

BBC 5 Live commentator got in a right mess about the Bournemouth thing while trying to commentate live. She actually said, "the vidiprinter shows the Bournemouth goal still stands. So up steps Jay Rodriguez to either put Burnley 2-0 up or restore Burnley's lead."

I mean, seriously?

 

Absolute bants in the Bournemouth game, clearly the correct decision and that it was given against Adam Smith who is one of the very worst cheats in the Premier League makes it even better.

Vydra still hates Bournemouth after 14/15, fair play to him.

 

Awesome, so we could end up in 16th if we beat United tomorrow

 

Ederson just punched iheanacho in the face, missing the ball completely, VAR, no pen. One of the most blatant pens you will see. Fed up of the top 6 GK’s being protected. Had Foster done that, would have been a red and pen.

 

They made voodoo dolls of John Moss and said candyman 5 times in front of a mirror, whilst slagging off the masonic lodge and the gypsy king. But the refs union summoned satan and the voodoo dolls look more like Eddie Howe in actual fact. Plus they're ****.

 

A truly VARcical day in the Premier League today. There really is no point in having this system if it doesn’t improve the quality of the decisions made. The worst of the lot in my view was the disallowing of the first Bournemouth goal for a ‘handball’ by Billings when the ball clearly came off the TOP of his shoulder. I can only conclude that the VAR on duty didn’t know the rules. However it was Bournemouth so, in the words of Windsor Davies: “Oh dear. What a pity. Never mind.”

 

The systems/people who decided Billings was a handball are the same systems/people who decided Dele Ali's goal vs us wasn't.

Exactly the same part of the shoulder.

 

Absolute f**king shambles, the lot of it.

 

I'm still enjoying and happy enough VAR. Think yesterdays Bournemouth decisions were fair, whilst not being clear and obvious errors I would say 60:40 in favour of being the correct call on both. Dele Allis handball last year v Watford was 70:30 a handball, so is a worse decision (but didnt have the drama of Bournemouth scoring a goal that is then chalked off).

The Lo Celso foul if wrong was also rationally understandable given that it was somewhat accidental rather than a total reckless lunge. VAR will not remove refs errors, just make the % of calls right higher. However if you scrutinise every decision it seems that more wrong calls are made. 100 tackles all looked at in detail will leave one or two question marks with VAR but without VAR, the ref handled the game by letting things flow (or got card happy at the other end of the spectrum). If you have a lo celso challenge in the championship without VAR not given as a red, the spiel from managers and press is "somewhat lucky the ref missed it" or "another day may have been a red". No further questions or hoohaa.

I think there needs to be multiple independant VAR refs with a button. Like the judges in boxing, Taekwondo, gymnastics or dancing on ice. 3 VAR refs - 2 think overturn it, 1 agrees with original call and the on field ref views the monitor. 3 think overturn and the ref does not view the monitor, just overturns.

 

Sorry, but that’s not right. The second handball by Smith was very similar to the Alli one, but Billings’ was on the top of his shoulder and could in no way be considered his arm. If VAR is making that mistake and then missing the ball actually hitting de Bruyne’s hand in the Leicester game, there’s really no point in having it.

 

Blimey? I think a lie detector test for anyone suspected of diving, too.

Personally, I honestly believe VAR is causing more controversy than it prevents. I'm starting to hate it.

I thought the idea was to correct decisions on the pitch, but it is now doing far more than that. It is finding things that no one else notices, it is often replacing one debatable decision with another and is clearly taking away the spontaneity of emotion when a goal is scored.

Regardless of the occasionally correct decision in the right circumstances, I prefer things as they were.

For me, we should scrap VAR and use technology for referee training and retrospectively hammering the players that try or succeed to "cheat" the referee.

 

Despite it clearly not the solution to everything, I can't see being able to get rid of VAR. Despite everyone moaning about it, it's done the job it was brought in to do to fix what everyone was moaning about previously, now it just needs washing and ironing.

 

I'm not convinced it has, or ever will, "fix what everyone was moaning about".

The main complaint most people have always had is that decisions are not consistent. The problem is that most calls in football are subjective. Everyone sees them differently depending on who they support and just about every supporter thinks that their team are getting all the bad calls.

Even off side, which is an absolute measurable rule, has not become controversy free because of VAR. Quite the opposite.

VAR is probably here to stay but, based on the evidence so far, it will not stop inconsistent and bad calls happening in the eyes of football managers, supporters etc. That is, and always will be, part of our tribal game.