Under 21s..

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by wfc4ever, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Quite an entertaining game tonight.

    In typical England style we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    1-0 up with 10 men going into injury time then let France score twice - with the winner coming from a Wan-Bissaka own goal in the 5th minute of the added on period.

    Mind you France did miss 2 penalties so maybe our luck was due to run out.
     
  2. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    In the South American tournament, Chile smash Japan.

    Football > geography!
     
  3. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    That's knocked a few quid of AWB's value!
     
  4. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun First Year Pro

    I'm clearly not seeing what everyone else sees. I don't rate him at all. A couple of decent performances last season but nothing consistently special. He's just young and English.
     
  5. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    He was "consistently special" though - he was in the top 3 PL players last season for both number of tackles and number of interceptions. He was also dribbled past only 10 times in the entire season - 3rd of all PL players that contested 50 or more tackles. He was named Palace's 'Player of the Season' (ahead of Zaha). Defensively he was the best full-back in the league, that's hardly even a debate.

    https://www.whoscored.com/News/n53c...y-up-Wan-Bissaka-offer-but-have-other-options

    https://www.squawka.com/en/features/aaron-wan-bissaka-to-man-utd-transfer-analysis

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/03/08/aaron-wan-bissaka-became-effective-defender-europe/

    He's pretty mediocre and overly conservative going forwards though (even though he completed the 10th most dribbles in the PL last season), hence while he'll likely end up at Utd and not say City.

    I'll excuse him the OG yesterday, he managed the whole season at Palace without doing anything as rash.
     
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  6. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Was going to say Hoofers on the verge of taking England out. But Tammy Abraham has just equalised.

    England U21 2-2 Romania U21

    with about 5 minutes to play.
     
  7. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Oh my god a howler from Dean Henderson (goalie) makes it 3-2 to Romania.
     
  8. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    That is after the good game he had against France but generally our defence has been poor .
     
  10. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    U21s our after two games. Useless clown Boothroyd overseeing proceedings.
     
  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    What a strange line-up to start with. By all means make changes if you win the first game. But Boothroyd took a tournament game lightly. Foden was clearly a class above when he came on. Sessegnon and Wan-Bissaka also strangely left out.

    Should be sacked as soon as the final group game is over. The U-21’s job should be a precursor to the senior role - we have very talented young players but a League 2 (probably lower) manager.
     
  12. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    He was given a 2 year extension before the tournament and his quote after the game was "They're going to have to carry me out".
     
  13. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Haha.

    Making out the FA who having been making millions for years can’t afford to tear up his 2 year deal on likely very low wages. The arrogance of it.
     
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  14. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Hagi looked pretty good for Romania. Perhaps nonsense rumour doing the rounds on twitter that an as yet unnamed PL club have offered £7mil for him.
     
  15. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    I’m sure he tried his best and is a nice guy, but I’m afraid I’m perpetually biased against Boothroyd for delivering the most depressing season in my time supporting Watford.
     
  16. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Is that not balanced out by the unexpected excitement of 2006/7?
     
  17. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Romania looked good v Croatia.
    I only saw the last twenty minutes but it certainly wasn't dull!
    Why no Foden or AWB?
     
  18. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Has Boothroyd's voice broken yet?
     
  19. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Romania are a very good side. Don’t know why so many changes though. Having said that you can’t blame Boothroyd for conceding 3 penalties or the sending off in the first game.
     
  20. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Did you not go during Dyche’s final season?
    Boothroyd also gave us the promotion season which was incredible.
     
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  21. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    And the goalie throwing one in his net when we've just pulled it back to 2-2 or the OG in injury time!

    Talk about shooting ourselves in the foot...
     
  22. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    I don't think Boothroyd deserves stick from Watford fans. He got us promoted to the Premier League, against all odds.

    He's clearly limited, that's why he's only managing the national U21 side, but Watford fans should not be knocking him.
     
  23. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Which season?
     
  24. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Bournemouth.
     
  25. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    2007/08. I also hated the way the previous regime was summarily dismissed but, to be fair to Boothroyd, that certainly wasn’t his fault. In 2005/06 he was lucky to inherit the emerging Ashley Young but I think his greatest achievement that season was to motivate the ultimately nasty Marlon King. Despite the promotion the whole period was not Watford’s finest hour.
     
  26. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Lose 2 out of 2 and say “they will need to carry me out”

    He’s a tool.
     
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  27. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Lukebakio playing for Belgium against Italy on Sky Sports.

    One good shot so far but most of the time he's been on his @rse.
     
  28. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    He could be more aggressive at times in trying to get hold of the ball. He's been jogging round most the match like a sulking teenager.
     
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  29. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    You know the suicide defending in the Nations League which cost England 2 goals?

    Under 21s showing they're ready to play at full international.

    England just scored a cracker - 3-2 up
     
  30. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

  31. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Another 3 goals let in by England - the defence won't be doing their claims for a Senior call up much good.
     
  32. Horace_goes_up_north

    Horace_goes_up_north First Year Pro

    It's so frustrating that the go past a man and get to the byline and then just turn back. Every single time. Throw a bloody cross in.
     
  33. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Reservist

    Knock it up to the big man! Second ball and all that; the English way.
     
  34. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Eh?

    I suggest we aspire rather higher for the coach of the national youth team, many of which won an age group world title.
     
  35. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Is he in charge of the other age groups too? Who all disappointed or didn't even qualify for their tournaments?
     

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