[NOT HAPPENING] Troy Deeney

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by El distraído, Jan 3, 2018.

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Would you consider a bid for Deeney?

  1. Yes

    125 vote(s)
    61.3%
  2. No

    79 vote(s)
    38.7%
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  1. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    Well then, I'm relieved that you don't make the decisions.
     
  2. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    I might be confusing two different people, but is lowerrous the same guy who got publicly called out by Deeney for walking off without paying the bill at a preseason event a few years back?
     
  3. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Personally, I would rather see Okaka or Gray start ahead of Deeney, so if it were up to me (which it isn't), I'd sell Deeney and reinvest the money in a different striker.

    Not much between the three of them, so I also wouldn't be against selling Okaka or Gray instead of Deeney and getting a new striker.
     
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  4. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    It's all well and good saying reinvest but you have two days to identify a target, agree a price and work out terms, it's way too late for that 5hit, which is another reason why he must stay until the end of the season, even if we did start with Okaka and Gray what happens when one of them gets crocked?
     
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  5. Simmos

    Simmos First Year Pro

    I am pleased you agree with me as Deeney was instrumental in wins against Swansea and Arsenal
     
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  6. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Games he's started:

    20-01-18 Leicester City 2 - 0 Watford
    16-12-17 Watford 1 - 4 Huddersfield Town
    12-12-17 Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Watford
    09-12-17 Burnley 1 - 0 Watford
    02-12-17 Watford 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
    28-10-17 Watford 0 - 1 Stoke City
    21-10-17 Chelsea 4 - 2 Watford
    30-09-17 West Bromwich Albion 2 - 2 Watford

    Games he's come on as sub:

    13-01-18 Watford 2 - 2 Southampton
    28-11-17 Watford 2 - 4 Manchester United
    14-10-17 Watford 2 - 1 Arsenal
    23-09-17 Swansea City 1 - 2 Watford
    16-09-17 Watford 0 - 6 Manchester City
    09-09-17 Southampton 0 - 2 Watford
    26-08-17 Watford 0 - 0 Brighton & Hove Albion

    Statistically, he's an impact sub, which means we need an impact starter, no?
     
  7. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Compared to you who bases it on Championship performances?

    If we go down and keep Deeney, you'll have the player you want.
     
  8. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    BUT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ONE!! And there does not appear to be one lined up. So you are advocating that we let Deeney go and bring in nobody??
     
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  9. Simmos

    Simmos First Year Pro

    We lost to Everton and scored a last minute equaliser against Liverpool when Okaka had run out of breath and had to be substituted. If you think Deeney is unfit then god help us if our hope is Okaka. Still waiting for three games this season where Okaka and Gray have turned things in a positive way for Watford.
     
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  10. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Where did I say that?

    It's already been stated by the club that people have to leave so new players can come in. If we don't have anyone lined we don't let him leave - are you calling Gino incompetent?

    The fact they're listening to offers means, they've got someone lined up.
     
  11. Simmos

    Simmos First Year Pro

    Totally agree but selling Deeney now would be crazy unless you have a financial interest in his sale. We need players who will give something to the cause rather than watch a game pass them by.
     
  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    The only way we can let any striker go is if we bring in a better striker - aren't we all agreed on that ?
    Afobe is not that "better striker" - aren't we all agreed on that (excl ITKJim) ?
     
  13. Simmos

    Simmos First Year Pro

    I just don't see how you can think about selling him now if the options become Gray, Okaka and A N Other
     
  14. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Gray came on against Liverpool, West Brom and Tottenham

    Okaka against Leicester, Everton and Southampton.

    What does that mean?
     
  15. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    That's fine if "AN Other" is better than Deeney.
     
  16. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    But that's my point, if we're considering letting him go, don't you think they've got people lined up?

    It's the way they work.
     
  17. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    We've had last-minute emergency signings before who've been crap
     
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  18. Simmos

    Simmos First Year Pro

    The problem is that the options discussed so far are no better than what we have and don't sound as if they are up for a relegation battle. I would be looking to keep Deeney and add another striker because we need Deeney's battling qualities in the next few months. Without Deeney at home to Southampton I don't think we would have scored and that was pretty much proven on Saturday.
     
  19. Simmos

    Simmos First Year Pro

    I don't think that Gray or Okaka changed the course of those games in the same way Deeney did in the matches I mentioned but I respect your view if that is what you think.
     
  20. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    There are other factors in changing a game and that's to do with the opposition as well.
     
  21. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Granted, but if you can't get your 1st choices without breaking the bank then I'll take it.
     
  22. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Are they all the games he's started?! If so damning statistic that we haven't won a game he's started this season.
     
  23. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    WBA playing Soton in the Cup.

    If we’d won on Saturday, Troy could have played a half for each team.
     
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  24. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Yeah he's started 8 games and come on as sub 7 times.

    https://uk.soccerway.com/players/troy-deeney/51197/

    Then click on the number to show you the game breakdown.

    Click on the time played, that's an interesting stat, he's only played the full 90 minutes 6 times this season.
     
  25. Vicarage Road

    Vicarage Road Reservist

    So with Deeney staying, it feels like a signing. Wouldn’t be surprised if the powers that be started the ******* rumour in the first place.
    Get some players in, Gino!!!!
     
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  26. Reggy

    Reggy Academy Graduate

    Sounds like he’s staying put, which has just restored my confidence that we might well be a premier league club come May.
     
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  27. Mighty Mo

    Mighty Mo Reservist

    Sturridge just signed for WBA so perhaps Troy is heading somewhere else or staying. Odds have shortened on him going to Everton.
     
  28. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    If they want him......
     
  29. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    For pie eating sharing with Rooney ?
     
  30. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    They get Deeney, and we get them to waive that Deulofeu clause, a few million and Sandro in return. Wouldn’t be against it.

    Sandro was very highly rated before his Everton hiccup. Just the type of player (age and profile) I think we should be looking at.
     
  31. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Wouldn't be surprised if Newcastle come in with a fairly big bid tomorrow
     
  32. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

     
  33. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Sandro is not really a striker, more of an attacking midfielder.

    Just like every other recent Everton signing.
     
  34. PotGuy

    PotGuy Forum Fetishist

    Sturridge will manage two games before getting another seasons ending injury, no chance he will keep them up
     
  35. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Okaka has played very few games - against Liverpool he was immense. Otherwise he hasn’t had the game time to turn things around

    Gray isn’t a good player so no one could name games he turned around as he isn’t good

    Your argument is a logical fallacy

    In my view the only player we should keep out of the 3 is Okaka and get rid gray and deeney if possible BUT get in two better players
     
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