Troy’s Achilles Heel

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Cthulhu, Feb 18, 2021.

  1. Come On Watford

    Come On Watford Academy Graduate

    Love it!
     
  2. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    His footballing ability? The burger van?
     
  3. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    I've just asked Leventhal on his Athletic Q&A about Deeney's contract status due to conflicting reports on its remaining length - his reply was, I quote:

    Deeney has two years left which I understand also has an option for a third year.

    He may get stuff wrong a fair bit - but he's look pretty stupid repeating this line if it wasn't true. I think we need to accept Deeney isn't out of contract this summer. Someone has asked him to clarify if that means 1yr+1yr option from this summer...surely it can't be 2yrs+1yr option even by our mad standards!
     
  4. So maybe just the 3 more years of Troy's prem league level costs. Phew, was worried for a moment there !
     
  5. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Two more years from this coming summer or is it now the penultimate year?
     
  6. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Somebody has asked him to elaborate on that point but he hasn't yet. I think if it's a continuation of what he said in an article earlier in the season, that this is the penultimate mandatory year and there's an option for another after that. So will end Summer 2022 or Summer 2023 if extended.
     
  7. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    Excellent, that'll keep the transfer fee up when the big boys come knocking in the summer.
     
  8. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    This means we are severely restricted on any rebuild if we don’t go up this year. What an albatross around our neck.
     
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  9. Captain Mandibles

    Captain Mandibles Academy Graduate

    I'm so confused about the Deeney contract situation, it just doesn't make sense. He was given a new 5 year deal in 2016, since when there's been nothing official about it whatsoever.

    Why would the club extend the contract of the captain and not tell anyone about it? What's the benefit of keeping it a secret? Troy himself hasn't said anything either, and he's hardly the type to keep his mouth shut. They make an official announcement every other time a player signs a new deal, right down to the U23s.
     
  10. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    So it runs out this summer but there is some sort of verbal agreement for another deal which may or may not happen?
     
  11. Chumlax

    Chumlax Reservist

    Where are you getting that from?
     
  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Asking the question as it seems a bit confusing as to does he have a contract which runs out this summer but there is some sort agreement to extend it by another year or so ?
     
  13. Chumlax

    Chumlax Reservist

    I mean mate, it's seven posts up!

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  14. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Fair enough but as said above we wouldn't have heard he had a extra year by now or did they just forget to tell us!

    He certainly won't be on the same sort of wages as he was in the Premier league if there is an extension due.
     
  15. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Think it’s sadly clear by now that Deeney has certain privileges within the club. He could easily sign a deal and ask for no one to be told I suspect. The clubs communication issues went from being poor to an utter mess last season - I’m not surprised we weren’t told as fans really.

    Also, let’s not forget there were complex discussions around wage deferrals going on at one stage - Any new deal could have been agreed and signed then and kept quiet due to the nature of the optics at that time. I suspect this is what has happened personally.

    As a wider thing - when we talk about finances etc, we should remember too that those wage deferrals will need sorting at some point.
     
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  16. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    It wouldn’t surprise me, given the theories around Troy contractually having to start games, if that also had something to do with (or was actually more related to) the extension option. It’s plausible the extra year is performance/appearance based, which means even if he’s not actually contractually obliged to play it would explain him trying to exert undue influence on the manager/his team mates/owners.

    If there is over £3.5m riding on him starting a certain number of games as an example, then that would certainly explain a lot.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2021
  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Who will rid us of this turbulent beast
     
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  18. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

     
  19. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Remember after the Wolves semi final, Troy spoke to BT Sport and joked that he wants a new deal

     
  20. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Gino has shown a distinct lack of judgement in understanding the depreciating value and usefulness of players as they age.

    For every ageless wonder who can go on until 38 and keep producing, there are dozens whose ability, physical condition and motivation drops off a cliff around 30-33, but we never seem to learn, judging by the lenghts of contract we award that take players right into the twilight of their careers.
     

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