Transfer window to change.

About time....the transfer window is to close before the start of next season.

Watford are one of the few clubs that are against this proposal though.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...sfer-deadline-forward-to-before-season-starts

 

Poor idea IMO. Club's promoted via the playoffs already struggle with the existing window, since they don't know whether they're going to be in the Prem or the Championship until after the PO final.

For everyone else, starting the season and then having Barcelona come in for a Coutinho-type star player that you then can't replace would be awful.

 

Just posted my own thread on this, wrote it up ages ago but got distracted and forgot to post, so hadn't seen this.

It's a horrible idea in my opinion, for the reasons explained in my own thread which I'm sure will be merged.

 

Perhaps there could be an emergency option, if clubs lose a player to a foreign club whose widow is still open, they would be allowed to sign a replacement for that player up until all the windows from all countries are closed.

 

Stupid idea!

Helps no-one but the big clubs who can afford to splash the cash earlier in the window and get squad depth.

All it takes is a couple of serious injuries in your first game and you go from safety to relegation candidates.

I get so annoyed that people always want to change the game. Just leave it alone.

 

How does that differ from 2 injuries sustained on 2nd September though?

 

Because you've had longer to bring in more players and the season is already 2/3 games in.

Not saying it's more likely, but most teams come September have found their formation, found their style of play and found enough players to make a 25 man squad.

Earlier would mean that would become much more difficult for the smaller clubs. It also means that players rest period (June) will become shorter because they would have clubs trying to sign as soon as the season finished, meaning they want get as long to rest from the previous season.

If true, that this is just for the Prem then imagine having our squad all together, then a team from Europe come calling for Pereyra, he wants the move, but our window is closed. We lose him without the ability to replace.

This is seriously the dumbest idea and will make the Prem incredibly weaker.

 

It's not clear what problem they are trying to fix with this

I suspect teams will end up starting pre season earlier and playing more pre season friendlies to allow managers longer to evaluate what they have and what they need

 

Why would you need longer? If everyone knows when the deadline is the market would adapt accordingly. So the rush we see now in the last couple of days of the window will certainly just occur earlier.

 

Right, resulting in the players having a shorter rest period from the previous season. Increasing the likely hood of injuries.

 

Eh?

 

Quite.

 

You've lost me. I can see that's a potential other consequence but it's unrelated to what I said and you quoted.

 

What's to stop that happening on 30 August now? No club is likely to source a suitable replacement at such short notice - it has always been that way. PL clubs will simply have to get more organised, settle their squads sooner and reduce their reliance on one man holding the fate of their whole season in his hands.

 

You're confusing possible with likely. Theoretically possible? Yes. Comparatively likely? Not even close.

If you're trying to argue the chances of a big Spanish club poaching a notable star in the current ~24 hour difference between the two windows are anywhere near as likely as they would be with an approximately 3 week relative gap then I don't know what to tell you.

It should be self evident that if you don't closely match a domestic window with those of your biggest competitor leagues you're at a disadvantage.

 

Heres a better idea, scrap the transfer window altogether , then if someone poaches a player a club can replace at leisure avoiding panic buying price hikes !
In fact just how things used to work many moons ago in pre prem era!

 

I'm not trying to argue your middle bit there. I'm saying that for all intents and purposes if Liverpool were to sell Coutinho on say 30 August now they still wouldn't be able to replace him adequately. And that's with the English buying window still open for 2 or 3 more days afterwards. Open or shut window it's bloody difficult to replace truly great players.

The question is why would continental clubs be suddenly popping up in those last three weeks, when their window was still open but ours shut, at a time when they know the selling PL club will be at their most resistant to selling their players? That's not a recipe for a good deal and I'd say the pros for them you highlight are outweighed by some pretty big cons in return. Plus PL money drives the whole European transfer market - it's not implausible to think that we could change our summer transfer window and then see the continental clubs move to close that gap in return because it suits them to follow the cash.

The impression I've got is that you and Markoa$ are more concerned for the clubs with pisspoor planning - the least resilient clubs who can't cope with losing one player or suffering a couple of injuries and who constantly rely on panic buys as the market draws to a close to make up the numbers in their squad when all of their earlier summer planning has unraveled for whatever reason. Personally I'd say they're not worth protecting.

 

A lot of our business comes late even with good planning. That's where we are in the pecking order. We can demand the club's plan better, but a shorter window could increase the chances that we will miss out. Like LTC says, what problem is this trying to fix? The accuracy of FIFA 2019 or Fantasy League squads?

 

i can see a reason to extend the window to January so teams have longer to assess if they have bought in the right players but not to shorten it

 

I think it's a great idea.

I hate the transfer window, get your business done and get on with the season.

 

Not read all the posts so apologies if I'm repeating others...

As I see it the primary reason for this change is to know exactly who's in your squad before a ball is kicked in anger.

No more of this unsettled player nonsense where, for example, Sigurdsson of Swansea appears to have lost the ability to think straight and kick a ball because Everton want him.

I don't see it making too much difference other than the transfers get done three weeks earlier.
I'm sure there'll be some knock-on effects but the transfer market didn't implode when these windows were first bought in so I doubt too much will change.

 

And a no from me for all the reasons above, plus a lot of big injuries tend to occur in the first few games of seasons as players readapt to the pace and it's good to have the option to replace them.

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Seems to me the shorter you make the window the more power you give to agents to ask for extortionate wages because they know you have less time to get the deal over the line. I'd just abandon windows if it was up to me.

 

Things worked ok before transfer windows came in , Ihave always been against the transfer window idea , the whole concept hikes up player prices ,wages, agents fees etc !

 

The problem with abandoning the windows altogether is that big clubs could end up unsettling players at medium sized clubs like ours. I say keep them and keep them in line with the rest of Europe (+ it's handy when the 31st August falls on a Monday as the bank holiday give England & Wales an extra day).

 

No for me.

It's just a huge advantage to top clubs in foreign leagues, who can still unsettle and buy our league's players after the season starts.

Also, whilst I'm not really in the habit of taking the players' side, some players will have been promised first team football and won't get it. I imagine that's why we oppose it - we snap up a few of those players every year.

We can't scrap the window - especially with such cash rich owners. Any small team above a larger team would have their players tapped up and unsettled throughout the season. And the money spent by two teams fighting for the title would get seriously out of hand.

 

Thats a fair point Mike , however I suppose you could legislate against that happening , I would also like to see a system that encourages home grown players in the truest sense ie from clubs own academy !
For example you would be allowed a certain amount of points to spend High cost players would cost more points ,(a little akin to the F1 changing engine parts etc).
you could have as many home growns as you like . ( to help us a little if a club has a linked ownership to another club then you could use their homegrown and vice versa )

 

**** idea

 

How about removing the window altogether, but you allow clubs a small number of changes to the squad after a set cut of date. Then young players at big clubs who fall outside the 25 can move if they're not getting game time or you could say loans only for players you don't count to squad members to try and stop the big clubs hovering up any young talent.

 

Sounds like a poor idea unless it applied across Europe. Even the Prem's big clubs would suffer.

 

It is applied across Europe at the moment by having a standard date of end of August. It couldn't be "standardised" to the start of the season unless all European leagues started on the same date. Plus, what the hell would football journalists talk about for most of August?

 

I think that we currently have an advantage, in that our manager has very little input with signings and can get on with football related matters.

For others, the manager might be unable to focus entirely on bringing in new players/ training/ studying the opposition, and this might be fairly chaotic.