Things you love II

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by Meister, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Sounds pretty tough emotionally but at least you get to go home at the end of the day feeling like you've made the world a little better. My wife gets the same sense of having helped people. Rather than playing around with a bunch of spreadsheets to make some entrepreneurs a bit richer.....between posting on some silly football forum :)
  2. Meister

    Meister Administrator Staff Member

    I feel your pain. I must also add that it's incredibly frustrating for those that have to care 24/7 for someone who is effectively slipping away. No recognition of the hours & effort put in. If you can imagine your worst day at work these people experience it pretty much every day. It's not right but it's human nature to get frustrated occasionally. If I can ask that you cut them a little slack, within reason obviously and this particular event sounds horrible, often it's more stressful for the carer than those receiving it.
    What I can say to carers is that the good days are great days and they need to be made the most of. Because eventually when they're gone, if you haven't, you'll regret it.
  3. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Sounds like you are speaking from experience.
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  4. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think this thread is going off track, albeit in a wholesome way. My gran passed last year, after a descent into dementia that made her utterly unrecognisable. I saw a one vibrant and funny woman descend into someone who was more like a feral cat. In the end, death was a release. I think we all felt that my real gran had died when the last vestiges of her personality slipped from the husk of a body which remained.

    Give me any death, than the death of the mind, which leaves the body behind for my loved ones to care for.

    Anyway - back on subject - a chicken kebab wrap. I'm gonna pick one up from the pop up, street food place by Old Street Station at lunch as I'm starving. I think they do two massive skewers, salad, hummus in a big flatbread for about 8 quid. It's enormous.
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  5. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    Well after a depressing Wednesday evening. My missus cracked me off and gave a Cadbury cream egg. Not at the same time I may add.
  6. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Popped in whole or bite the top and suck out the creame?
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  7. Meister

    Meister Administrator Staff Member

    Since the recipe changed, it's not as good.
  8. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Academy Graduate

    What a great recommendation - thanks for that. I think you’ve made our minds up. We’re in Kortrijk now and we’ll try to make sure we wrap up what we’ve got to do in the day early enough to get to the game.
  9. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Reservist

    No worries.

    How did you end up in Kortrijk? We were going to Centre Parcs in Holland and wanted to stop off in Belgium for a couple of nights to break up the journey, so I got out the Belgian fixture list and cross referenced it against whether the place was decent enough size and not a **** hole.

    This scientific method came up with Kortrijk, which was a really nice little city.
  10. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Reservist

    But don't go to Da Franco the Italian restaurant in the main square - the 1970s called and they want their restaurant back.
  11. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Of course. We are in and out and it's easy to smile and be patient and gentle when the person with dementia says the same thing for the sixth time in the last two minutes. The son in this case doesn't find it easy I'm sure. He has to resist it all the time. But then it is his mum! She looked after him when he was a child and helpless. Now it needs to be repaid in my view.

    I think he also has his own problems. He religiously watches all these poisonous daytime TV 'Rogues 'n' Thieves Caught 'n' Shamed on Camera' shows and is an expert on how ineffectual the police are in tackling the teeming hordes of swindlers, muggers, cut purses, joy riders, Nigerians etc. etc. who are roaming around loose just outside the front door and free to do whatever they want and probably getting a grant from the council to do it. That sort of stuff. Remember we live in the cosy Cotswolds here.

    He tells a lot of boasting stories where he comes out on top and puts the others who've offended him in their place. By the sound of it, he's had lots of different 'security' jobs which haven't lasted very long due to differences of opinion with managers/supervisors who were triumphantly put in their place by him being proved absolutely right and them being idiots. He also mentioned he has no success in reporting all the crimes he has observed at the local police station and that those behind the desk there are useless.

    I don't think he'd do anything physically, but I am concerned about him putting her down all the time. She's in good shape physically but obviously the dementia is getting worse and she's getting more forgetful - although as is typical, perfect crystal clear memories of her youth. She often says how she dreads not knowing her mind and being a vegetable and that she'd far rather die. That was a big part of the reason for her heartfelt tears and what got to me. He often drives it home to her when she says she's forgotten something ("BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT DEMENTIA MUM!") and huffs and sighs when she repeats something, or cuts into her conversation.

    What a terrible situation to be in. Dementia is an awful disease. They don't even have an idea what causes it. Hereditary? Pollution? Blows to the head in earlier life? A combination of those? If they could find a cure for that, what a boon it would be to humankind.

    I have concluded from my work that there are two Ms that are important to have a happy old age: Mobility and Marbles. You want to be able to get about under your own steam (not have to be hoisted onto the toilet and indignities like that) and you want to keep thinking straight.

    As for children of elderly parents. Obviously don't put them in a care home. Obviously. The poor souls who work there are in an even worse situation than us. All they do is hand out meds. Morning meds, mid-morning meds, lunchtime meds, afternoon meds, teatime meds, bedtime meds. You don't even get a chance to talk to them. Just handing out pills. Care homes are a recipe for a rapid downward spiral.

    Also, I would say, try to avoid old people's developments. The apartments. They're all very nice, but the people are shoved out of sight and out of the way. All they see is other old people. They don't see any babies or mothers or toddlers running around. Just the occasional visits. I visit some people who are sat in very luxurious retirement apartments and who are so lonely they have burst into tears when I arrive. Old people should be part of the family. They should be at the head of the table keeping the kids in order and being disapproving of things and fully participating. They shouldn't be shut away and left to rot. It's a shame.

    The happiest and most healthy living people I visit are invariably the ones who are in their own homes and mixed in with the community. Who know the neighbours. Who go to the pensioners lunch club and the quiz evenings and such like. And of course those who have attentive family very close by or living in the same house.

    Anyway, 96 year old gentleman copiously vomited all down the passenger side door (both inside and out) of the Kremlin family Wartburg this afternoon. As I'd just given him mashed banana and custard followed by two teaspoons of Gaviscon, it was a very Hornetty shade of bright daffodil yellow. Instead of going for a drive to look at the glorious spring countryside, we went to the garage for a giant 'Plenty' roll of kitchen roll, a packet of antiseptic wipes, a bottle of water for the chap to swill his mouth out and a ticket for the car wash....
  12. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    Wow. All credit to you, I know I couldn't ever do a job like that. Having lost my father after he suffered from dementia for four years I also know I wouldn't want to live like that. The combination of a loss of dignity and being a burden on my loved ones makes me a strong advocate of euthanasia, whether it remains illegal or not.
  13. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Academy Graduate

    I was working in Belgium over the weekend. I've been to Kortrijk many times over the years but never managed to coincide with KV playing at home. Have had the misfortune to go in Da Franco's too. It's been owned by the same family for years and probably hasn't changed at all since the 1970s. On Mondays in winter a lot of the restaurants seem to close so we've sometimes had very little choice. Have found a couple of really good places over the years – the current favourite is De Heeren van Groeninghe, which we discovered by accident, because it's hard to tell it's a restaurant from the street. If you're going back, it's more or less opposite the Hotel Messyne and the steak is excellent.

    Whenever I'm working away we try to go to a game if we can – have been to all manner of French games, went to Gent once, but their new stadium was a bit sterile. Kortrijk was a real old school ground – reminded me a bit of Brentford.

    The football was great – €17 for a standing ticket. One end was a great terrace with a roof. I was struck by the number of kids and especially teenagers and people in their early 20s who were at the game. You don't see that at English Premier League games to the same extent any more, partly because of the ticket prices but mainly because of the difficulty groups of friends would have to stand / sit together.

    The fact you can have a beer and watch the game meant there was a completely different type of experience. The beers are pretty small, but the fact there are no queues means you don't see people buying four beers each half an hour before kick-off and then leaving loads of unfinished bottles and cups around (which seems to happen at every away game here). And no one is heading to the bar after 35 minutes of the first half to load up again.

    Cercle Brugge had Eden Hazard's brother playing for them and they took the lead in the first half. But Kortrijk scored twice in the last ten minutes (the second of them in the last minute) to win it. They had a very tall Uruguayan centre forward who scored both the goals.

    Noisy atmosphere and lots of songs in English. The standard isn't very good but it was a good game because it was evenly matched and quite open. Kortrijk are mid-table and Cercle are near the bottom and I'd guess the general level was mid-table Championship sort of stuff.

    Very glad we decided to go – and your message twisted our arms because we'd had a pretty tiring day and could easily have just gone for a meal and a beer instead. So thanks for that.
  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    92nd minute winners.
  15. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Reservist

    Glad it was good, was the best evening out for a while when I went. KV Kortrijk struck me as being a club similar to Watford in terms of history and support, though it's always more fun on a terrace.

    I watched it via the Bet 365 app (Stick a fiver in your account and watch half the games in domestic leagues in Europe streamed live) and thought it was a good game. Cercle Brugge brought over twice as many fans as Charleroi despite being a lot further away.

    That tall Uruguayan is Felipe Avenatti and he was easily the best player on the pitch when I was there. On load from Bologna, be interesting to see if we could pick him up as a striking alternative.
  16. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Academy Graduate

    Avenatti looked clumsy but effective and scored both goals. He also sent a couple of shots over the stand and one off for a throw. Not sure being loaned from Bologna to Kortrijk is a route that leads to the EPL.

    I'm going to keep an eye out for Kortrijk's results and will certainly go back if I have the opportunity. I didn't realise they are part of Vincent Tan's empire until I looked it up just now.

    If you have any other recommendations for good European grounds to visit, let me know
  17. Meister

    Meister Administrator Staff Member

    I love the fact that the inconsiderate bstard that ignored the warnings and parked in-front of the office bins blocking 3 parking spaces and delivery access, now has a scuffed rear wheel arch courtesy of the binmen who visited this morning.

    Hopefully the parked car will be gone by the time I leave this evening as there's no way the meistermobile is getting through that gap without me removing their wing mirror first.
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    Otter Gambling industry insider

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  19. Meister

    Meister Administrator Staff Member

    Fortunately they've just gone.
    Didn't notice the scuff or the polite note I left on their windscreen.

    If they park there again tomorrow I'll curl one out on their bonnet.
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  20. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Isn’t this a recurring parking problem at Meister Ltd?
  21. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    Tonight on the way home from an early Mothers Day meal with my Mum we found a car on it's roof in the lanes between Croxley Green and the M25 which had obviously just happened. Made sure the bloke got out of the car OK, checked him over, got the engine turned off and called the emergency services. Happy to say he was OK if a little shocked. The pros turned up and we went on our merry way. The reason I posted this in here was because he told me it was his Mums car so I told him not to forget Mothers day on Sunday. Good deed for the day done.
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  22. Horace_goes_up_north

    Horace_goes_up_north First Year Pro

    Jamie Carraghers commentary when Liverpool go a goal down.
  23. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Mike Ashley being completely shafted in the Debenhams collapse.
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  24. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The safety of modern cars.

    Witnessed an epic one car crash this afternoon. Was stood in the kids play area of the local country park watching my daughters, heard a metal scraping sound and turned to look at the road in time to witness a tiny Peugeot hatchback literally flipping from nose to tail three times over. Don’t think I’ve ever seen one like that in person before. It’s a country lane outside so driver was clearly bombing along and missed the kink in the road.

    Ran outside to it with another bloke to find the car on its roof and, amazingly, all three young occupants unscathed. Really expected there to be serious injuries or worse. All three managed to crawl out within a minute and the biggest injury was a tiny cut on an elbow. Car obviously obliterated. Lucky bastards.
  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Unless he picks the remnants up from the receivers/administrators for £25.00 a bit like Bates did with Leeds.
  26. Meister

    Meister Administrator Staff Member

    Having a good whinge.

    There's nothing better than moaning about something, bringing everyone else down to your level. In fact I don't think I'm really happy unless I've got something to whine about.
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2019
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  27. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Finally, your position on Brexit makes sense.

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