The Premier League - 2020/21 - All Match Discussion In Here

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by Smudger, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Sadly thanks to incompetence on and off the pitch from the hierarchy, the winkers at Stockley Park and a bunch of half arsed players we're not in the circus this season but hope to be back in 2021/22.

    I hope Vile, Palarse and Leeds go down. I can see Bielsa walking off pretty sharpish if things do not go their way. Would be great to see. Also building up a healthy dislike of Brighton. They seem to have forgotten where they were a few seasons ago and are only where they are now thanks to a billionaire owner.
     
  2. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Our last two games were quite instructive on the gap now between one of the very best teams (Man City) and 'the likes of Arsenal'. They were both 'on the beach' but we couldn't lay a finger on City and really should have beaten Arsenal.
     
  3. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Agree with your picks to go down in an ideal world, but can’t agree re Brighton. Always a great away day and it’s one of the grounds that actually makes an effort to make away fans feel welcome. Also, because my sister lives in the area, I have come across lots of Brighton fans and have found them to be a nice bunch.
     
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  4. HornetMan

    HornetMan Academy Graduate

    I can see Palace struggling if Zaha goes. Yes, he plays up to his reputation as the pantomime villain whenever they play us but he is a very talented player in an extremely below-average team. They will find it difficult without him

    Part of me also hopes Sheffield United's bubble bursts- second season syndrome and all that. They're a glorified pub team- effort, commitment and desire, but no actual real quality. Wilder's system works, for now.
     
  5. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Reservist

    Are you referring to our players or the ones who play for teams who didn't get the expected results against our relegation rivals to save our bacon?

    I know we can't complain too much about going down with 34 points especially when we've spurned plenty of opportunities to save ourselves, but it does annoy me that nine times out of ten you wouldn't get Arsenal losing at a side as poor as Villa, or Everton losing at home to Bournemouth after being unbeaten at home for 11 games and Bournemouth losing nine away games on the spin, whatever the stage of the season and whatever's at stake for both sides. Those results just weren't supposed to happen with the quality those teams have and the opponents they faced.
     
  6. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Ours mainly. They could do it. The results against the sides in the top seven show it. The results against the other mid table runners were appalling. It also highlights how we are a countering team. We cannot establish pressure in midfield to dominate matches and create chances by retaining the ball. We like teams to come onto us. If we go behind therefore we struggle. The best performance this side produced was against Wolverhampton away at Molineux when Capoue and Pereyra scored. After initial pressure from the home side we out passed and outplayed them. We looked vintage Farcelona.
     
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  7. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Reservist

    The problem is also we cannot play ultra-defensive football like Palace, Burnley and recently Villa largely because our defenders are too prone to errors under pressure, so that makes us a very limited team, especially when Sarr and/or Deulofeu are out.
     
  8. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    Think Palace could well go down, they have lost 8 of their last 9 and if Zaha goes that won't help. Lots of their fans really hate us and look down on us but what have they really got out of their time in the Premier league? No development of their ******** of a ground.
    Leeds would like them to go down too, the most deluded unlikeable fans out there.
     
  9. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Oldest squad in the PL in 19/20 as well apparently. Even older than our pensioners!
     
  10. Watfordftw

    Watfordftw Reservist

    It'll be an interesting season, on paper it should be a tough year. I could see Villa and Palace being involved in the relegation scrap if they both lose their best player, neither club is exactly known for spending money wisely. Interested to see how Leeds do, could have a very good season or it could go horribly wrong.
     
  11. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Plus the oldest manager, he turns 73 in a couple of weeks! How much longer can he be expected to continue there for?
     
  12. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Is the PL ever 'interesting'? Perhaps when Leicester won.
     
  13. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Nearly as interesting as Serie A and the Bundesliga and slightly less so La Liga. The way the scummy so called big clubs have ordered the rules and competitions to favour themselves and lock everyone else out has been shameful. It has undermined what actually makes sport interesting. Competition. In this regard the American model of club franchises be it the NHL or MLB or NBA and their draft makes it far more of a level playing field.
     
  14. Watfordftw

    Watfordftw Reservist

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    Interesting to see that he's already looking to leave, has he really done much at Everton to warrant a big club to come in for him?
     
  15. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    He has been one of their better players. Unfortunately I don't think we has a sell on clause inserted in his transfer. He won't win anything with them so will make the jump soon.
     
  16. Harefield Yellow

    Harefield Yellow Academy Graduate

    On the relegation picks, you'd also have to look at whoever comes up via the play-offs. I don't think that Fulham for instance look any better than the team that came up two years ago.
     
  17. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I mentioned this the other day. Unfortunately the draft system only works because their teams don’t have to compete internationally; it’s essentially a closed system with all the big teams isolated from the smaller ones with no promotion and relegation. However the Americans understand the collective strength of a true ‘league’. The clubs operate as one off the pitch on things like marketing, Merchandise, TV rights, online access etc., and only compete with each other on it.
     
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  18. a19tgg

    a19tgg Reservist

    Yeah the draft system wouldn’t work in football, unfortunately. It wouldn’t however be impossible to implement a salary cap and player franchise system like they have in the NFL. Imagine Man City could only choose to franchise two/three of their star players and the rest were available to move around and be franchised elsewhere if they wanted. It would still never work because the whole of Europe would need to do it and obviously none of the top clubs would agree to it. The interesting thing about the NFL is that despite it being a level playing field and things like the draft designed to help the worst teams get better, you still get perennially terrible teams and perennially good teams. Despite all our criticisms, I’d like to think that if Watford operated under such a system we’d do pretty well.
     
  19. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Why wouldn't we have a sell on clause? I thought that's one thing the Pozzo's are known for?
     
  20. Yes and we are usually water-tight when it comes to contracts and paperwork.
     
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  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I think someone in the Brazilian press seemed to have details of the deal and didn't mention a sell on clause. Plus Everton paid top dollar for him and I don't think it's routine for big boy deals like that to have sell ons.
     
  22. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    I know, right. When is Gueye deal happening? He looks a real talent, maybe even our next Doucoure!!!!
     
  23. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Bad news for Newcastle fans - the Saudis have pulled out of the takeover.
     
  24. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Is it bad news? Depends on your priorities I suppose.
     
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  25. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Morals probably not but Newcastle fans were looking forward to getting of Mike Ashley.
     
  26. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Then they'll surely be happy with the American bid that was apparently 'waiting in the wings'.

    But of course, it won't be good enough as they can't try and sign the dream team they wanted.
     
  27. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Oh dear what a pity never mind :oops:

    Cue mass exodus of the likes of Allan Saint-Maximin.......I love it just love it :D:D:D:D:D
     
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  28. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

    Love it! Couldn’t have happened to a nicer set of fans hahaha.

    When relegation was confirmed all I saw from Newcastle fans on social media were comments like “back in your place, we’re stealing Sarr, back to where you belong etc.”

    One of my best mates is a Newcastle fan so I do feel sorry for him, but for the rest of their fanbase, I love it!!

    They are nearly as bad as the Leicester fans celebrating our relegation.
     
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  29. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    They've always been a bunch of bell ends. Really pleased it has all fallen through. There's a silver-lining for them though, it'll give them plenty to moan about, which is like oxygen to them.
     
  30. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    There was a tweet from the Premier League about mental health the other day, and I **** you not, it was soon bombarded with Newcastle fans having a go at them for, and I quote, affecting their mental health because of the delays to the takeover. A very odd bunch up there
     
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  32. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Gimmicky video of Emili Sande miming the Cup Final hymn Abide With Me just now. Just sing it live.
     
  33. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    What the heck was up with that s*** cringe rap intro?

    Also, Alonso's knee didn't go all the way down to the turf - does that mean he's now canceled?
     
  34. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

  35. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    The two boys are not bad footballers. Hand eye coordination of course. I reckon they could do a job for the Toon. Looking at the FA Cup Azpilicueta concedes a penalty. Amazing how Dawson and Deeney were manhandled worse than that against Southampton and Palarse and received nothing.
     

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