The consequences of that mauling

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by hornetboy1, May 20, 2019.

  1. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

    Right, so nothing clear has ever been stated. People are making assumptions, putting 2+2 together and getting 12. Then basing their opinion off that. Thank you for clarifying.

    I’m pretty sure he would be more than happy to play for us. We gave him his big break. If it wasn’t for us, his name wouldn’t even be on the radar and he would never have had the opportunity to say he scored at hat-trick against one of the best and biggest clubs in the world. I would be confident in saying, he is over how we treated him.

    Again though, and this is not sarcastic, if you can find me any recent article that states otherwise, I agree with you to sell him.

    It’s probably his agent trying to get his cut.
     
  2. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    The clear implication was there and you know it. Perhaps try being less contrary, irascible and cantankerous most of the time.
     
  3. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Reservist

    I think the fans demonstrated the perfect way to react when the 5th went in. We need to use it to drive the team on next season. I honestly think it was the perfect response and when the dust settles, the players will appreciate what a superb club they play for. The players cared. Don't doubt it for second. They are professional athletes, who wouldn't have got to that level without being resilient. No reason not to be optimistic moving forwards imo!

    If anything, the biggest teams will probably think twice about breaking the bank for our best players. More deadwood will be shifted in the summer and we absolutely must strengthen in the correct areas.

    I would much rather support a smaller team, with every opportunity to keep improving, than a team like Citeh.
    Even those that aren't 'plastic northerners' were at best relieved at winning the game. When you expect success, there is no joy or elation, just, well 'meh'. This was so apparent from speaking to their fans after the game.
     
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  4. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

    No-one, I’m just trying to get an understanding from some of our fan base that clearly want a talented player sold. I even agreed with you about selling him, if he has made those remarks. So not sure why your upset.

    Bottom line is, in February he stated he wanted to play for us, but didn’t think he would get the opportunity so didn’t want to risk staying, just to spend the season on the fringes. Thank goodness we have a player that actually wants to play every game and believes in himself.

    UEA was right in saying it depends on how you read into the interview. I really don’t see anything other than a pro footballer that didn’t want his career to stagnate by running the risk of staying here, so wanted to go on loan to get game time.

    Now if someone offers us £25mil+ then I’m sure we will sell. However I would like to see what he can do for us first. I genuinely think he would help us next season. If, and it’s a big if, he can repeat what he done in the Bundesliga this season in the Prem, then his value will be even higher.
     
  5. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    This comment requires the ability to be able to read between the lines but its quite telling...

    And he said, "I do not like that at all. It really bothers me, because it was never my intention. It proves that I do not control my own future.
    "I want to stabilise myself and play for a club that suits me well, who often has the ball and where I can enjoy my freedom."


    They certainly aren't the words of someone itching to come back. These are his words, not his agents. And they aren't the type of comments a player makes if he's more than happy to play for us.
     
  6. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Reservist

    Really can't see Lukebakio and Cucho being sold. Neither are anywhere close to peak value. Cucho, only if they can't get a work permit, even then he may be of use to Udinese. Also doubt Sema will go, as this would be detrimental to squad depth and Javi seems to rate him, somewhat. Can't argue with any of the others. Would like to see Janmaat and Pererya stay, but this depends on whether they want to. Peneranda will end up on loan imo.
     
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  7. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Shut up, mate.
     
  8. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Reservist

    Need better friends by the sound of it.
     
  9. another_mrlizard

    another_mrlizard Squad Player

    I was relatively sanguine about Saturday, until I found out from the experts on here that some fans of other teams are laughing at us on Twitter. Now I finally understand just how much was at stake and it changes everything.
     
  10. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Is the mood on the Spanish mainland and islands morose in sympathy with Gracia & Kiko & GD, or jubilent for Guardiola and the Silvas ? or is there a noticeable split ?
     
  11. another_mrlizard

    another_mrlizard Squad Player

    Silva's Portuguese m8
     
  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    And Pep G probably calls himself Catalan?

    Just wait for next season and all the 6-0 in your cup final chants aimed at from away and some home fans!
     
  13. another_mrlizard

    another_mrlizard Squad Player

    Won't bother me, VAR was the final straw for my relationship with the Premier League, so I won't be around to hear them much. I've spent the weekend scouring Google Maps for directions to Slimbridge, Larkhill Athletic and Willand Rovers.


    (Edit - Larkhall apparently....who knew?)
     
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  14. Stuey

    Stuey Reservist

    It wasn't the first time we've been battered 6-0 By City and it probably won't be the last. The gulf between them and the rest is pretty evident (aside maybe Liverpool)
     
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  15. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Good to know. That makes it 3-2, Spain is mourning with us.
     
  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Of course we did our traditional let in 2 late goals to make the score line even worse thing - done it at Liverpool a couple of times and now Man City.

    We actually defended fairly well to start with but they seemed to just walk past us at will as the game went on.
     
  17. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    Maybe even a "Did you cry at Wemberleeee" at Molineux ?
     
  18. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth Squad Player

    They cut us open at the start too but all the crosses just seemed to hit Cathcart rather than finding their forwards - just luck really.
     
  19. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Reservist

    In relation to the other 6-0 win, thought this might interest you:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1902–03_Football_League#First_Division

    Bury and Derby were actually neck and neck, separated only by goal average. So I’d say that although the scoreline was the same, the game must have been far more humiliating for the losers. Especially for a club the size of Derby versus one the size of Bury, who were clearly punching above their weight back them, and have been a perennial lower league club since the last war (a bit like a reverse Watford).
     
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  20. Leighton Buzzer

    Leighton Buzzer Reservist

    Yep, you are right, I have my summer gardening to do, and my lawn to look after
     
  21. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Either Citeh or Salford for him then.
     
  22. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Jeez, Millennials!

    Just remember how Holebas was 'recruited'.
     
  23. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Sting has gone into gardening mode.

    Maybe you could recruit him to trim your edges.
     
  24. Horace_goes_up_north

    Horace_goes_up_north First Year Pro

    I'm in the process of buying a house and putting myself in considerably more debt than I'm already in. This is worrying me a lot more than what crystal palace are going to be singing to us in the first game of the season.

    I'll worry about that a week before.
     
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  25. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    No teams from Manchester or London.
     
  26. Leighton Buzzer

    Leighton Buzzer Reservist

    I mowed my lawn and trimmed the edges this afternoon as it happens. Love my gardening. Don't mind if somebody offers to do the boring hoovering though.
     
  27. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Our lawn has disappeared.

    The central strip is grassless after several years of my son doing his footie drills & the side bits have acquired meadow status.
     
  28. Leighton Buzzer

    Leighton Buzzer Reservist

    When we played them at home, some Brighton fans where walking along Vicarage Road singing "He's one of our own" What more proof do you need?
     
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  29. Leighton Buzzer

    Leighton Buzzer Reservist

    In which case, you have my deepest sympathy.
     
  30. Leighton Buzzer

    Leighton Buzzer Reservist

    We all know that's his father.
     
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  31. hemelhorn88

    hemelhorn88 Academy Graduate

    We could all just shout NO when they sing it
     
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  32. Since63

    Since63 Reservist

    Long flight from Torrewherever it is?
     
  33. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Strange that, a Derby season ticket holder I know at work had never heard of it. I think the biggest consequence will be the extra money the club raised from the final appearance.
     
  34. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Is he

    - Elton’s dad
    - a Benny Hill enthusiast
    - not safe at children’s parties?
     
  35. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    You can sing anything when your bf doesn’t know where you are.
     
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