The Championship 2020-21

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Markoa$, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Well, he still has to get it checked, so I don't think he's saying Perica is out of the woods yet. Interesting to see what he said about Sarr ('I hope he's OK'), didn't indicate any injury, but I wonder if we'll see him sit Wycombe out
     
  2. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Reservist

    I don't know.

    If it were guaranteed that every other year we got promoted it would make relegation from the EPL more palatable.

    It's a far more exciting existence than season after season of mid table finishes in the Premier League imho.

    Of course nothing is guaranteed and it's easy to get into a losing spiral following relegation as the likes of Stoke, Sunderland etc have found.
     
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  3. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    No. No. No. Please god no.

    That made Zola resign and broke our hearts. :'(
     
  4. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    It's the old Charlton/West Brom model - 3 bounces, keep most players each time and them you eventually organically grow a team that can hold it's own.
     
  5. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Albeit a better attack might stretch that defence a bit more, but still, a solid defence can get you far. My instincts are that they will fall down eventually, but I suppose play-offs might be more realistic
     
  6. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Can you do that these days, or will teams just pick off any player who's done even halfway decent in the top flight the season before? (obviously this season is a bit different with that pandemic kerfuffle)
     
  7. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Reservist

    Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if Sarr doesn't start on Tuesday.

    As well as being assaulted on numerous occasions today, he also rolled his ankle which may cause him a bit of pain for a few days.

    Hopefully we'll have enough to beat Wycombe without him!
     
  8. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Not sure. It would be a good way to make you a champo powerhouse though (3 years getting a thumping but not running up any debt each time). Whether you can bridge the gap like the 90s is another question. I remember WBA rattling around a bit with a similar squad for about 6/7 years before getting established.
     
  9. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Pfft, I don't know, all I want is to win this ******* league one day, then whatever happens short of us going bust, I can live with. I suppose it would be amazing being in promotion battles every two seasons, but wouldn't it just get a bit dull, especially when you know that once you go up, you'll just come straight back down? (Besides, all things being equal, Norwich probably should be aiming for a bit higher than us)
     
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  10. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    That means..........Mr Murray and Joao Pedro up front. Or maybe we can go 3-5-1-1 with Quina or Sema behind JP. I hope Capoue starts. Surely he's ready now.
     
  11. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Reservist

    I'm not sure if we could ever be desperate enough to play Murray....could we?:eek:
     
  12. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Wouldn't have been surprised if we were deciding to rest him against Wycombe anyway after 2 consecutive full games, but after that, I'd be surprised to see him start. Who to replace him with though, that's the question, go with a similar set-up to Derby, with JP central, Sema and Quina on either side and Femenia at LWB, or maybe JP with another striker (Deeney or Murray, which to be fair, I think on paper could work quite well, although Murray looks past it and Deeney quite possibly is too)
     
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  13. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    We really should not have lost to them and I think that they don't have great depth which will likely show when the fixtures come thick and fast.
     
  14. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Would sooner bring Sean Murray back as a CF
     
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  15. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Neil Warnock complaining about attackers blocking off defenders from set plays,

    Pot kettle black comes to mind !
     
  16. Chiswell

    Chiswell Academy Graduate

    Quina impressed me today. Yes, he's been pushed further forward but I'm thinking try him right up there in the opposition penalty box. Maybe alongside the target man? Quina appears to have the best shooting abilty in the squad and his twinkle toes and dribbling could cause havoc if the other team daren't touch him. Ivic wants end product out of him and what could be better than a few goals?
     
  17. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Norwich's owners were the poorest in the Prem last season, and we were way ahead in that respect even though the Pozzos were the third poorest.

    So Norwich have to be careful even though they have more top-flight history and much bigger gates.
     
  18. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    I just have this sneaking feeling Murray may yet prove valuable sometime. Only one way to do it, though: Park him in front of the oppo goal area and keeping spraying the crosses and free-kicks in.
     
  19. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Yo-yoing up and down doesn't sound tedious to me. Quite the opposite. Tedious would be like Argyle, Bristol Rovers, Rochdale - - who never do anything.
     
  20. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Yes, it is frustrating that young players get written off on our forum on the basis of a few poor performances - particularly when most of his shortcomings have come from trying too hard to impress. We need a bit of patience with young technically gifted players as they often need a bit of time to get things, like decision making, right.

    He has loads of ability and, if he is allowed to gain a little more experience, he can improve his general game-play and could be one of our biggest assets.
     
  21. mindthegap

    mindthegap Academy Graduate

    Murray is more like a league 1 player now so Wycombe should be ideal for him.
     
  22. Harrybassetthater

    Harrybassetthater Academy Graduate

    Was not at all impressed with Perica. On a similar level to Murray in my opinion. The sooner we get Gray and Deeney fit the better as both are much better options than Perica or Murray.
     
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  23. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Can’t remember anyone “writing off” Quina on the forum. Hyperbole on your part: Plenty of comments about some poor early performances which, let’s face it, they were. Promising cameo performance from him yesterday though.
     
  24. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I haven’t researched it but I suspect Plymouth and Bristol Rovers (and many others) have had just as many ups and downs as us, just generally at a lower level. Rochdale famously set a record of remaining in the fourth tier for some huge amount of seasons (around 40 I think), but just imagine the elation of their fans when they finally were promoted.
     
  25. Since63

    Since63 Reservist

    Bit like us the first time we became ‘full members’ of the Football League in 1969...
     
  26. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    Deeney would have got nowhere near the Cross from Sarr
     
  27. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Ipswich have never left the Championship in either direction since it was named the Championship In 2004, now that’s mediocrity.

    I can’t seem to find who has actually spent the most consecutive seasons in the second tier itself, irrespective of what it was called.
     
  28. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

    Ummm... Ipswich are in League 1
     
  29. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    I think Oldham spent over 20 years in what is now League One before getting relegated.
     
  30. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    ****ed that up didn’t I

    I don’t think anyone hasn’t left the championship then, Derby and Forest appear to have the most seasons of teams currently in the Championship.

    It looks like Barnsley have the most overall seasons in the 2nd tier.
     
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  31. Dreadnought

    Dreadnought MMC 2010/11 Prediction league 3rd 2011/12

    Depends on how you look at it as Wycombe are spending their first ever season in the Championship so have not left it yet. :D
     
  32. Siohmy

    Siohmy Reservist

    Whilst I’m sure this is correct, if you got this from list in Wikipedia, it also shows our highest ever position as 1st. If only huh?


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  33. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Imagine being a fan of one of them? You get the patronising 'you belong in the top flight' from neutrals, yet you've spent God knows how long in this Godforsaken hellscape of a division, often finding new and creative ways of bottling your way to going up
     
  34. Siohmy

    Siohmy Reservist

    We’ve got a really good chance to put a marker down this week. Trips to Wycombe and Barnsley. Neither will be easy (is anything in this division) and Wycombe look like they may be finding their feet but many of the teams around us play each other and Reading have a tough trip to Blackburn.

    Early days but 6 points would be a massive boost.


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  35. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Barnsley as well have a new boss, and seem to have found their shooting boots, of course we should still be looking to win, but could definitely be a tricky game, especially as they made a reputation for being a pain in the backside for the bigger teams last season
     

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