Suspension Of Politics Section...

Discussion in 'This Site' started by Ghost of Barry Endean, Jul 19, 2020.

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  1. Because people are 'insulting each other'.
    Good job the politics moderator isn't moderating 'The Hornet's Nest" - he/she would have to shut it down every week as the happy clappers Vs bedwetters descends into vitriol every other day.

    Ridiculously heavy handed. (Again).
     
  2. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    Everything wrong with the politics section in one post. Nicely done.
     
  3. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    But true. The forum is packed through with people being rude to each other. Somehow if its Politics this is apparently more awful.

    It's, to say the least, inconsistent what gets challenged and what doesn't.
     
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  4. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    I'm disappointed, where will I be able to read the thinly veiled racist views from now on?

    Oh yeah, I'll read the Troy Deeney threads.
     
  5. Should have had a referendum on closing it and when people didn't get the results they wanted they could complain about getting a new one.
     
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  6. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    When, out of idle curiosity, on May day I checked when 'A. Poster' posted anything other than in the Politics section it was in mid February and on the last page of their list 200 postings...
     
  7. Maybe if the moderator had strong views on Deeney he'd get more involved.
     
  8. Eh?
     
  9. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    I vote for the suspension to be lifted.

    Imagine the people who post there leaving their computers and going out into the real world.

    At least on that forum they can be closely monitored.
     
  10. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    :) I wouldn’t leave. I’d be worried I’d meet the grown men who obsess about football 24/7 even when it’s not on.

    Ooooh do we need a striker? Gosh that medical team! Why haven’t our owners got seventy twelve billion pounds?
     
  11. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    But it's not. The only single time I've had a minor spat in the last year outside the politics section was to do with the proposed new stadium, and that was handbags compared to daily abuse in the politics area. It would be a real shame to lose it, but I don't see the point of a section where people daren't give a view and therefore don't visit.

    Every single thread gets abusive. It's fun to watch as a non participating spectator, but to moderate must be a complete nightmare.
     
  12. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    There isn’t a “politics” moderator. All sections are overseen by the same team of people. Of course, at risk of sounding like Mrs Merton, debates get heated and sometimes over the top elsewhere on the forum. But there isn’t anywhere near the same level of consistent personal abuse.
     
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  13. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    It has a particular problem and if that problem was dealt with it would get no more tetchy than the rest of the forum, which is quite tetchy.
     
  14. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    I am all for the politics section, the issue is the constant barbs from both sides of debates that quickly boil over into more personal attacks. If you can't debate a topic without getting personal you should not be debating it in the first place.

    I think all parties need a couple of days without it to calm down before it can reopen.
     
  15. hornmeister

    hornmeister Administrator Staff Member

    This thread is a perfect example of what is wrong.
    We've already had the finger pointed.

    The issue isn't one poster, the issue is a group of multiple posters. They either grow up fast, they all get banned together or the politics section dissppears completely. For a side section of the forum it takes too much admin time to look after and this can't go on.

    Members accept moderating decisions by posting on wfcforums. If anyone has a problem with this they can go elsewhere.
     
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  16. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    There are moderators on this forum?

    I took a hiatus as this forum was going downhill. The personal attacks on a certain back player were sickening whether he be referred to as 'not the sharpest knife in the draw' because statistically BAME people were more vulnerable to COVID or because they were more interested in trade marking a BLM logo - it's not even thinly veiled racism at this point - yet nothing was done or said.

    The forum has deteriorated further, so as per hornmeister's command, time for a permanent hiatus and look elsewhere.

    Good luck to you all.
     
  17. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    I hear Outlaws is looking for members.
     
  18. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    I referred to Deeney in a thread as “not the sharpest knife in the draw” and that comment was not made “because BAME people were more vulnerable to COVID.” To quote someone entirely out of context and then follow it up with accusations of racism is, frankly, defamatory and is exactly the kind of behaviour that has led to the suspension of the Politics forum.
     
  19. Diamond

    Diamond Squad Player

    That's a very good point above. I haven't been called racist since I stopped posting in politics. Amazing.
     
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  20. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    That’s not what has lead to its suspension though. Those sort of attacks have been tolerated for months.
     
  21. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter First Year Pro

    Correct.

    Recently Meister asked all posters to refrain from personal insults and arguments against the people posting rather than the argument being made.

    Since then, the poster most prone to abusive personal attacks, who has previously had threads and posts deleted because people wouldn't shut up when he told them to, has continued to make his personal attacks and comments.

    I don't like being openly discussed by two posters, who will not discuss any matter with me directly, as being a racist nazi, when I have not made any comment that deserved such description. There is a particular irony in this because one of the posters has repeatedly defended racism and antisemitism on the forum.

    I did not respond directly because in the past that has led to the Mods making it clear that it was not desirable for us to do so. So instead I complained. To which I understand a warning was given. Since then, another two attacks were made that, in the most cowardly way imaginable, did not address me directly.

    If those attacks had not been made, or if I was free to respond in like to the poster, the thread would still be open. It is up to the Mods how they run the site, and I am greatful that they do.

    You are the problem you describe Moose.

    The problem ends if you either stop insulting people, or stop complaining when they insult you back.

    Or if the mods shut the thread down because you can't reel it in, or learn to take the same medicine you dish out.
     
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  22. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter First Year Pro

    Some may call it stalking rather than idle curiosity. I have never looked up your history to justify whether or not you are a valid poster on the forum.

    My history with the Club, as a child, a fan, a season ticket holder, an employee and as a friend goes back half a century.
     
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  23. hornmeister

    hornmeister Administrator Staff Member

    This is not an extension of the suspended politics forum. Those who are ruining it for the rest know who they are.

    If the whinging and bickering continues, the suspension lengthens and it gets more likely that it'll never be lifted.
     
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  24. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Unless you would like to remove Hooter’s post, which is wholly inaccurate, I think it reasonable it is replied to.
     
  25. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Not sure I agree. The pro verses anti Pozzo arguments get as abusive as the the politics forum stuff. I don’t really go in the politics forum much anymore but it feels inconsistent to close it unless there have been unseen posts deleted of course.
     
  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    You realise that was posted after I raised the issue of you PMing me insults right? Seems somewhat ironic that you are using a directive that was aimed at the likes of yourself as a defence in calling others to respect it.

    Seems to me that the politics section would be better served if those who are heavily suggested by @hornmeister as being the main protagonists accepted the fact, rather than withdrawing themselves as a factor whilst pointing fingers.
     
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  27. Lloyd

    Lloyd Reservist

    Come on boys - play nicely or we won't get our ball back
     
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  28. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Jesus wept....the state of this thread.
     
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  29. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    When the politics section was reinstated I had the sense to set that section on ignore. Not that I posted much on there before the first closure.
     
  30. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    How do you set a section on ignore?
     
  31. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    The post that kicked off the latest suspension was mild and not inaccurate. The problem is what has gone before. Classic Simeone vs Beckham.
     
  32. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Who are you replying to?
     
  33. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Lack of sex can send men crazy.
     
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  34. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter First Year Pro

    Just bumping this...
     
  35. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Isn't it just a question of putting Moose and zztop on ignore? :D
     
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