I need to get off my chest how much I hate seeing this guy play for us. He's everything I hate about footballers. He never challenges for the ball, he never tries to drive on, preferring to fall over and he never looks bothered about how badly he's playing. When he first came on the scene, I, like many, had high hopes for him. Fast, strong and direct, he also scored a couple of key goals. He's gone backwards however, not forwards, in his development. There was a spell this season where he started a short run of games, looking like our most all round, solo striker. He could control the ball, run with it, hold it up, lay it off. Now when he comes onto the pitch, however a piece of me dies. It just looks like he doesn't give a tuppeny **** whenever he plays. For me, above anything else, that is completely unforgivable. I do think there is a player in there, but he's going to need the luxury of being a team's main man and given time to play, week in and out to get confidence etc. I don't think that will happen here. For me, the best thing for it now is to either give him a season loan to La Liga or the Championship, where he can get games, or just sell him on and recoup some of the cash the pozzos paid themselves for him.
I tend to agree albeit in less bombastic terms. I watched him a bit at Granada and thought he was raw but exciting, really direct and always taking players on and looking to run in behind. And he kind of looked like that when he came here in his first few cameos. But since then he's never kicked on (barring a couple of back to back decent performances with Deulofeu earlier this season). All he seems to do now is take high balls down well on his chest and dive around. He can't pass, can't finish, doesn't seem interested in trying to beat a player. He's practically zero goal threat, never in a position to have a decent shot. I'm not sure he's even an upgrade on Okaka. I'm still at the point where every time he comes on, I convince myself that this will be the time it all clicks for Isaac and his Watford career is about to take off but then endure twenty minutes of watching him fall over, pass the ball straight to the opposition or get caught offside from a Foster kick. Time's running out, Isaac... Edit: think he'd be completely unsuited to a loan to the Championship as he'll get even fewer free kicks awarded. Back to Spain even though his spell at Malaga was a disaster? Either that or wave goodbye to the top leagues and go and play in Turkey or China.
I watched him a fair bit at Granada and was hopeful when he came to us. I still think there is a good player waiting to blossom but I'm not convinced that it will be at Watford. Come on Isaac,prove us wrong.
I'll admit I was venting quite a bit. I think Arsenal was something of the straw which broke the camel's back, as the other players were giving so much, it looked as if Success may well have cost us a chance of getting an equaliser with his lacklustre efforts and there was do much about that game to leave me frustrated. I am not sure about your last para. It may well be that that environment is exactly what he needs. A league where he can't just fall over and win cheap free kicks might force him to use his other attributes and not be so lazy. His pace and strength should be a huge asset at that level.
I agree he is a good player when he wants to be. He has talent but to me is a very lazy footballer He never seems to want to work for anything and expects to get tap ins. He could do with playing with Gray for a while too. Both of them have something the othet lacks. More than anything his mentality has to change before he becomes who we all know he is capable of.
He is a player lacking in confidence. He had opportunities against Arsenal to shoot, or take on the last defender and didn’t. He dithered more than my mother in law. I would give him a run in the next 3 games to see whether he can get back to his early season form. If he can’t, then ship him out in the summer.
Passerby more to the opposition than our own players ! Also doesn't help that for a big guy he falls over so easily .
I'm surprised at the lack of apparent interest in his body language when he played on Monday. During pre-season, he was so apologetic, and eager to knuckle down and prove himself. He has a fantastic opportunity as a player with Watford, but he doesn't seem too bothered to take it. I liked some of his FA Cup performances, and when he first signed for us, I thought he was a real force. Somewhere along the way, he let off the field events take over. The party lifestyle you could say. He'll probably get a chance on Saturday. He has to do a lot better than he did against Arsenal. It was almost as if we were playing with 9 men. I'm fair with players though, and if he turns it around with a quality display on Saturday, he'll be praised and rightly so. It's down to him to change people's opinion. It's not rocket science. He needs to use his physique and power. He needs to put himself about, chase lost causes, challenge for high balls, and generally be a pain in the butt for the opposition. Do that, and fans will take to him and will accept limitations in his technical abilities. If we just strolls around, looking generally disinterested, then no one will support him.
Time to cut losses I think and sell him for what we can before he fizzles into nothing. What a disappointment.
He did score a belter against Spurs in the Carabao Cup. He can hit the ball hard, but doesn't do it anywhere near enough.
Will be playing in the Turkish third division in two years. Garbage. Can't stay on his feet, can't beat a man, can't finish and clearly doesn't have the appetite to improve or put in the required effort. Hopefully gone in summer.
Yeah, I like him to an extent, probably because it's clear that with even a half decent attitude he'd be a good player and he started the season OK, but he clearly has no will or determination to work and improve or effect games when he comes on. When we first signed him he was extremely direct and would take people on with his seemingly pretty good dribbling skills, pace and power, but that seems to have died out of his game completely.
Success is more noticeable at times for the wrong reasons at Javi's Watford because the other 10 players on the pitch are invariably putting in a shift. Even a player like Deulofeu, who would jog around and barely last 60 minutes in days gone by, is now running non-stop and putting defenders under pressure off the ball. Deulofeu's work-rate transformation gives me hope for Success, but the player himself has to want to change. As others have alluded to, you would have thought when he came on against Arsenal he would have been really fired up, knowing that he'd have a real chance of starting the next few games and putting his name in the ring for the FA Cup (let's not forget he started against City in the league), but there was no real intent or intensity about his play.
This is the crux of it. Gray has turned round the opinion of some fans by his substitute performances. He runs into the channels, pressures defenders, gets himself into the box. Success spends all his time dropping deep and wide, very rarely presses or tackles back, gets himself caught needlessly offside from longer balls. It's all very frustrating, if you're coming on with 25 minutes to go and your team mates have been working their socks off then you run yourself into the ground for the time you're on the pitch, not just ambled around.
Jurado was pony but I disliked him more because some people kept suggesting he was brilliant but that you could only see it if you really understood the game. The original Mr Neat and Tidy.
im not going to get on Success's back too much. 2 starts since christmas. not much time to get a fan club behind him I would've thought. sometimes subs make an impact sometimes not. didn't do too much against Arsenal in the 31 mins he was on, however got an assist as a 9 minute sub against Man Utd before that.
Success hat trick today, to silence all Da Playa Haterz. Jurado was sh1te though . Talented footballer/technician but never impacted the game . I hate neat and tidies .(apart from Xavi who was a maestro) I’m starting to think Kiko might be turning into a neat and tidy .
