Stephen Tommy Yaxley-Lennon-Robinson

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by hornetgags, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    I'd go even further than scepticism. I don't think, based on the film, there is anything genuine about his response. We all know he tries to manipulate every situation possible for media consumption and will have edited the video to suit his objective. We know nothing of the alleged offence - and obviously if these young men were doing what is claimed, they deserve the full force of the law. But it's not up to Robinson to play the hero by jumping in and inflaming the situation with his well-known skills of 'diplomacy'. His first concern should be to his kids, then the victim. Leave the alleged thugs to the police.

    It's his kids I feel sorry for - what a despicable role model of a father they have to endure.
    a) He's a violent racist overreactionary shitstirrer
    b) He's prepared to leave his kids in a vulnerable position with the car door open to confront the young men. Listen to the panic they were in towards the end of the clip, telling him to just get back in the car. Did he leave the handbrake off when he jumped out again? Unclear from the footage.

    Twice in two weeks he's been involved in a publicised violent incident. He looks for trouble at every opportunity. Absolute dregs of humanity, I don't believe a word that comes out his poisonous mouth.
     
  2. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    Whatever you think of the guy it really doesn't matter. He single handedly stood up to three thugs who had assaulted an elderly woman and coughed in people's faces. Its unexpeceptable behaviour. What would you say if it was a relative of yours? No he shouldn't of left his children like that but I for one have experienced the red mist that fully consumes ones being when experiencing acts of violence like this. Would people feel differently if it wasn't Tommy? I'm not saying he's heroic in some of the stuff he does and tbh don't really care who he is. All I've witnessed here is something I hoped I too would of done ,not with my kids present obviously, but where has RESPECT gone in society.
     
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  3. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    Basically all you are saying to me, you are not the type to ever want to intervene?
     
  4. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    Again I will say. What if it was a family member of yours assaulted and it wasn't Tommy that got involved?
     
  5. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I only managed 6min of his video - does it show it? I know there's no reason why I should doubt the integrity of Tommy "13 criminal convictions" Robinson*.

    *Not his real name.
     
  6. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    But why is it on video? Why are the thugs of a specific descent?

    I’m not going to praise a man for something I believe he MAY have staged himself. Too many similarities with stuff he’s done before.
     
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  7. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    If you think about that question for a minute, you'll realise it's a bit daft.
     
  8. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    All one is conveying is that if a stranger ever jumped in to help you if you were in a tight situation, they could not expect you to do the same because of X, Y & Z.
     
  9. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Did you notice his child sitting in the rear seat, using some " industrial language ", goodness knows where he learnt that from!
     
  10. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    All people are seeing is Robinson. Not the women the thugs attacked or the couple that were coughed on. We're currently in panic stations due to the pandemic and rightly so. You would all act and speak so differently if it was any of your family who were abused. As for kids swearing don't you think kids swear these days?
     
  11. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    Wrong. Whether Robinson is a violent racist scumbag or not isn't the issue. Anyone who jumps in feet first, like Robinson did, into that situation with strangers (and that includes the victim) is asking for trouble for themselves and potentially putting the victims in more danger. There's a chance you could be beaten up, stabbed even, by three men against one. Judge the situation first, try & distract them, sure, perhaps try to move the victims from the situation, but pile into them as a first action? No. Call the police. Protecting yourselves & keeping out of danger as far as possible through sensible risk assessment is your first priority - that's basic advice for police & emergency services because it is common sense. They're trained to assess risk and act accordingly, the rest of us aren't so that can lead to daft decisions led by 'red mist'.

    As for the point about if it was our family, that's not got anything to do with this situation so is irrelevant.
     
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  12. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Was this shown after the 6min mark in his video? If so I'll watch more of it.

    It's a shame that the c-word will probably prevent that c-word getting his day in court on the 2nd April...
     
  13. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Well we don’t actually see the ‘people’ being ‘attacked’ at all.

    No one is saying it definitely didn’t happen. But it’s fair to question it given the very dubious nature of the guys previous videos. He claims he was just driving down the road and saw it - why does it always happen to him? Why was it being videoed?

    Clearly if it happened, then he was correct to stand up to it. But I think it’s a bid mad to blindly believe a guy with his character without asking sensible questions first. His past behaviour warrants those questions to be asked.
     
  14. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    If it was genuine, then by talking about the profiles of the 3 thugs at the end hasn't he technically compromised any chance of a conviction if they're caught, as their defence would be able to claim they wouldn't be able to have a fair trial?
     
  15. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    Can you honestly say that you have not witnessed a violent act while going about your business? As I said previously I have no time for Robinson. But frankly would of done the same. So my wife informed me that I have done on a few occasions. It's a red mist of injustice for the victims that annoys me more.
     
  16. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    So are you telling me that if I was a victim of violence I should just deal with it and not retaliate? BS. sometimes the best form of defence is attack, catch them off guard.
    Sorry but if I get hit, 99 times out of 100 I will hit back. I'm not waiting for the police to turn up.
     
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  17. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    The woman is not shown being hit. But is sporting a very nasty eye injury.
     
  18. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    I haven't said once that I haven't witnessed a violent act. But when I have, my first thought hasn't been to grab my phone and document it - or get my daughter to video it.

    But if I had done that, and I'd done it numerous times before - I would thoroughly expect the validity of it all to be questioned.
     
  19. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    That's his modus operandi. Spouting off about people on social media, preventing any chance of a conviction, then claiming that he's the only one prepared to confront such people, when he's the sole reason they aren't banged up.

    I will say this, clearly, for the people who can't understand the nuance. If he really intervened in a situation where he defended vulnerable old people from an unprovoked attack, then that was a good act. Doesn't make him a good person, but it was a good act.

    If, however, as I suspect, he staged and misrepresented the whole thing, through one of his carefully selected videos, then people would be idiots to be suckered in by someone who's got so much for such deceits.
     
  20. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    I'm talking about being a witness, not a victim.

    But as you brought it up, we are clearly opposites of the fight/flight spectrum. If I get hit, or indeed sense danger, my response has always been to get away. The last time I hit someone was when I was eight. The last time I was hit was in 1987. Lucky I suppose, but I think I have a good sense of when things might get nasty and I'm out of there. Can you give a situation when attack is the best form of defence? I can't think of one.
     
  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Second half of Watford v Liverpool last month.
     
  22. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    Very good!
     
  23. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I certainly am not a violent person but the run at all costs view you have comes across as a bit cowardly. Would you still run for the hills if your family were threatened?
     
  24. Presumably he would grab his family and take them to the hills with him ? We are all wired differently but that's what I'd have done too. I've not hit anyone since I was about 15.
     
  25. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    The way it's written is almost as though @Maninblack openly admits & almost comes across of being proud of running away at the slightest hint of danger.

    No offence meant, why not just say you're sh*t scarred of getting roughed up a bit, or are now too old to fight? Much more respectful to board members & yourself!
     
  26. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Fine but where do you draw the line. If some idiot is firing the c-bomb at the football next to your kid do you have a word with him or sit there and take it because you don’t want to risk trouble. I imagine ManInBlack would complain to a steward but only at half time when he’s out of sight. Just seems a spineless existence for me. And that’s fine but it’s a bit odd to be proud about it and preach at others.
     
  27. I’d have a word with him. But I wouldn’t wade in, fists flying, and beat the **** out of him.
     
  28. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Well nor would I. But I wouldn’t curl into a small ball either. Middle ground and all that.
     
  29. TBF not sure anyone would curl into a small ball in that situation.
     
  30. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    Interesting responses! Spineless? Cowardly? Proud? Preaching? Good examples of how we all stereotype others we don't know based on a couple of sentences on social media.

    I was just replying to Carpster's assertion that 99 times out of 100 he'd hit back if he was hit. That wasn't a criticism of him, his instinctive reaction is just very different to what mine would be, it's just how we're wired, as Tut said. I've never seen the point of physical violence, I've not felt the need to conform to any macho male image and I don't like overly aggressive, lairy people. I wouldn't like Tommy Robinson even if he wasn't racist. Just fact, not preaching.

    Sh*t-scared of being roughed up'? That's overstating it, but I don't like the thought of being beaten up - does anyone? And yes, I wouldn't leave my family when I need to back away from a potentially dangerous situation - 'run to the hills' is also an overstatement.
     
  31. Carpster

    Carpster Reservist

    The situation I will give is from when I did choi kwando. Given certain situations its better to deal with your opponent before they've had the chance to throw a punch for instance. The element of surprise.
    I wouldn't class myself as macho or tough I just detest bullies and thugs who target the weaker of society. Sorry if it offended you but I will not change, especially not to please others. Its a difference of opinion and actions. I personally believe mine is the way forward in my world.
     
  32. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    This looks like you are a follower of that martial art from the East* of Tomee-w@nk-**** as practised by short-arsed pikey scummer pyschpoathic dim-witted racist bullying bullsh**ting c**ts everywhere. I would bow to your magnificence but I would face the risk of having some pedo-muslim drug-dealing immigrant trying to bum me.

    This whataboutism that's being posted here is fun. Let's say I'm a a short-arsed pikey scummer pyschpoathic dim-witted racist bullying bullsh**ting c**t who's going to get fleeced in an libel action brought against so I either have to 'sell' all my assets (such as a bijoux residence on the outskirts of Scumland-in-the-shyte), when I say 'sell' I off course mean "...let one of the insanely wealthy alt-right US backers buy it and put into 'trust' for me...") or I can use the meagre funds as part of some settlement before declaring bankruptcy.

    But the trouble is, I'm getting no media traction any more post election. What if I raise my media profile by arranging a couple of stunts that will hopefully snowball into a rent-a-mob of other pikey scummer pyschpoathic dim-witted racist bullying bullsh**ting c**ts appearing at my court appearances attempting to influence any decision may by violent intimidation that also may increase traffic on my website generating a few pounds as opposed to the pennies I get now and also selling a range of overpriced tat mechandise (and my book). But these stunts have to be carefully filmed showing lots of self-righteous anger, lots of accusations but few facts. I also have to make sure that the films' central victims actors are not easily identifiable buy showing their faces but that the police officers who've come to deal with my violent behaviour can be easily identified. This may also cloud the pikey scummer pyschpoathic dim-witted racist bullying bullsh**ting c**ts 'understanding' that the real reason I couldn't travel to the US on my passport was because of my list of criminal convictions and that I won't be able to go there again because the following attempted use of a false passport bans my crossing of any US borders under their homeland security regulations.

    *...of England
     
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  33. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    No offence taken! Our human natures are different and I suspect we couldn't change even if we wanted because instinct kicks in. Our worlds are probably quite different as well, I know I wouldn't enjoy living in a world where hitting someone as a preventative measure is the way forward.

    The situation you give is generic though, not a specific example. My way would be to avoid having an opponent in the first place where possible. If not, my defence is to talk my way out of it / diffuse it or remove myself from a threatening situation before it develops. I actually think I learnt the latter from experiences as a Watford fan in the 70s & 80s during the hooligan era! Having been roughed up by Forest, Luton & Arsenal fans and a couple of close shaves from West Ham my thug radar is pretty good. Being tall is an advantage as I can see what's going on, but it has been a disadvantage as the knuckledraggers like the challenge of picking out the big bloke so I am more wary. But it hasn't stopped me going to any Watford/Luton match since the 70s, even at the Kenilworth skip!
     
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  34. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    To be fair I agree with all of this. However in my experience sometimes an obnoxious individual is going to attack whatever diffusing tactic is employed. If I can diffuse a situation I always will but some people are just idiots.
     
  35. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Respectful to other board members?! What are you on about? Why do you care?
     
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